fenderguy12
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Wich one of these would be the better guitar in terms of build quality, feel, playability, and sound. O and if i got the agile I would swap out the PU's for some SD.
Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
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lp_junkie
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
from the specs I'd say the AL 3000, I've played a bunch of the ESP Eclipses and hate the necks way too thin and uncomfortable.
So if you are more of a fan of meaty Gibson neck profiles the AL will be the ticket, but if you like shredder guitars then the ESP is the way to go.
from the specs I'd say the AL 3000, I've played a bunch of the ESP Eclipses and hate the necks way too thin and uncomfortable.
So if you are more of a fan of meaty Gibson neck profiles the AL will be the ticket, but if you like shredder guitars then the ESP is the way to go.
sbecker67
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
I highly recommend an Agile AL-3000 or AL-3100. If the cosmetics are important, get a plain or solid top; the flame veneer one that I have looks a bit fake. Everything else about the Agile is comparable to my Classic, otherwise.
And for what it's worth the stock pick-ups on these models are a very nice Alnico V, similar to a '59 set. I opted to put an A2 set in mine but only because my Gibsons have A5 and I wanted a different flavor. I do use the Agile pups in another guitar though.
I highly recommend an Agile AL-3000 or AL-3100. If the cosmetics are important, get a plain or solid top; the flame veneer one that I have looks a bit fake. Everything else about the Agile is comparable to my Classic, otherwise.
And for what it's worth the stock pick-ups on these models are a very nice Alnico V, similar to a '59 set. I opted to put an A2 set in mine but only because my Gibsons have A5 and I wanted a different flavor. I do use the Agile pups in another guitar though.
mwalluk
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
Ya it's true EC1000 is thinner than EC401. Still a really good guitar.
Ya it's true EC1000 is thinner than EC401. Still a really good guitar.
fenderguy12
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
My current guitar has 12 in radius is the ltd a lot thinner?
My current guitar has 12 in radius is the ltd a lot thinner?
Franknfilms
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
Funny that I saw this, I was just about to post asking about the Agiles after seeing this video Can someone tell me why I would ever buy a les paul for $2000? I guess the flame looks fake on the Agile? That is a shame, I really want a flame one but I don't want to buy something that looks cheesy. Looks pretty good in the video.
Funny that I saw this, I was just about to post asking about the Agiles after seeing this video Can someone tell me why I would ever buy a les paul for $2000? I guess the flame looks fake on the Agile? That is a shame, I really want a flame one but I don't want to buy something that looks cheesy. Looks pretty good in the video.
fenderguy12
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
The model i was looking at has a quilt top do you know if these look fake?
The model i was looking at has a quilt top do you know if these look fake?
sbecker67
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
Fake may be a strong word. They use a real piece of figured maple, albeit a thin laminant. The problem is the thick finish that's used doesn't make the figure look 'natural', it has sort of a plasticy appearance. All their guitars are heavily finished but I have to believe that the plain maple tops look better beneath all that lacquer.
If you're buying the guitar thinking it's going to have a figured eye candy top like a Gibson, you'll be disappointed. If you're buying the guitar because you want the Gibson feel and tone you will not. Ergo, get a plain top!!
Here's a few nice ones:
http://www.rondomusic.com/al-3000csbplain.html
http://www.rondomusic.com/AL3000tobacco.html
http://www.rondomusic.com/product2531.html
Fake may be a strong word. They use a real piece of figured maple, albeit a thin laminant. The problem is the thick finish that's used doesn't make the figure look 'natural', it has sort of a plasticy appearance. All their guitars are heavily finished but I have to believe that the plain maple tops look better beneath all that lacquer.
If you're buying the guitar thinking it's going to have a figured eye candy top like a Gibson, you'll be disappointed. If you're buying the guitar because you want the Gibson feel and tone you will not. Ergo, get a plain top!!
Here's a few nice ones:
http://www.rondomusic.com/al-3000csbplain.html
http://www.rondomusic.com/AL3000tobacco.html
http://www.rondomusic.com/product2531.html
blueman335
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
Agiles are tempting...
Agiles are tempting...
Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
I can't say enough good things about the ec1000 that I owned for 6 years. However, it is different from a gibson: thinner body, smaller neck. It'll get you somewhere close but not quite there if you're after the LP tone and feel.
Agiles have been hit or miss for me but they were always the 2000 series. Specs-wise, they're definitely closer to gibbys...
I can't say enough good things about the ec1000 that I owned for 6 years. However, it is different from a gibson: thinner body, smaller neck. It'll get you somewhere close but not quite there if you're after the LP tone and feel.
Agiles have been hit or miss for me but they were always the 2000 series. Specs-wise, they're definitely closer to gibbys...
JOEBACCA
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
My Dad bought this AL-3000m in cherry sunburst in 2006. NO BULLSH!T this guitar SMOKES ANY EPIPHONE LES PAUL OR LOW END GIBSON LES PAUL I'VE EVER PLAYED. IMO they stand up to alot of HIGH END GIBSONS TOO. He bought his used on EBAY for around $400. They are worth every penny even at $650 New. They sound, play, feel, and weigh just like a GREAT LES SHOULD !!! Oh and the Flame Maple Tops on these are REAL.....3/4 OF AN INCH AT THAT !!!....NO VENEERS.... F***ING AMAZING !!! If you are in the hunt for an AMAZING LESTER FOR CHEAP THAN THIS IS IT !!!
My Dad bought this AL-3000m in cherry sunburst in 2006. NO BULLSH!T this guitar SMOKES ANY EPIPHONE LES PAUL OR LOW END GIBSON LES PAUL I'VE EVER PLAYED. IMO they stand up to alot of HIGH END GIBSONS TOO. He bought his used on EBAY for around $400. They are worth every penny even at $650 New. They sound, play, feel, and weigh just like a GREAT LES SHOULD !!! Oh and the Flame Maple Tops on these are REAL.....3/4 OF AN INCH AT THAT !!!....NO VENEERS.... F***ING AMAZING !!! If you are in the hunt for an AMAZING LESTER FOR CHEAP THAN THIS IS IT !!!
lp_junkie
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
radius is the curve of the fretboard not the thickness and shape of the neck, the ESP are a lot thinner more along the lines of shredder guitars than a Gibson style neck which the Agiles have.
radius is the curve of the fretboard not the thickness and shape of the neck, the ESP are a lot thinner more along the lines of shredder guitars than a Gibson style neck which the Agiles have.
Kam
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Re: Esp LTD EC1000 or Agile 3000?
Yeah man, I've been lusting after this for a while now. In fact, if I lived in the States I'd probably already own it.
I really dig their spalted AL-3000 or 3100.
Yeah man, I've been lusting after this for a while now. In fact, if I lived in the States I'd probably already own it.
Empty Pockets
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i like 'em but as close as they are they're not quite right
if you could get one with a nitro finish we'd be talkin business
but used gibson prices are not bad and the cool thing about 'em is you can usually sell 'em for about what you paid if not more...which is nice in case of an emergency.
i think of my gibsons as long-term investments that are also bad-ass musical instruments. you just don't see the resale on off-brand copies hold up the same way.
i like 'em but as close as they are they're not quite right
if you could get one with a nitro finish we'd be talkin business
but used gibson prices are not bad and the cool thing about 'em is you can usually sell 'em for about what you paid if not more...which is nice in case of an emergency.
i think of my gibsons as long-term investments that are also bad-ass musical instruments. you just don't see the resale on off-brand copies hold up the same way.