esquire project

drew_half_empty

drew_half_empty

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I know who can finnish crap for like $50 (buddy of mine) and i want an esquire with a rosewood fretboard & a hot rail, haven't decided on the rest quite yet, but basically i want it to be bassy as hell, but retain definition & lots of harmonics, have a decent top end, i dunno, i guess kinda like my basswood tele with the '59 but more bass, a little tighter, and more defined under gain, i guess more of a 'typical' high gain sound, aaaand, i love chunky tone, but my guitar now is chunky so its not essential, as long as its got some low end to it. anywho, here's the options

squier tele, new tuners & electronics, MAYBE new neck

all warmoth

mexi with new neck, tuners & pickup

ebay piece crap together

yeah, so i'm budget conscious. I hear people bag on agathis for being a crappy wood for cleans, but, i don't plan on doing much clean work on this guitar so that's that, but i'm also not sure if alder would give me the bass i need, i've never played a hot rodded alder guitar so i dunno, wood suggestions? and which option should i go with?

also, what kinda tuners should i go with? i'm sure they effect tone quite a bit
 
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alder will work just fine...my teles with hotrails can pass for a les paul with no problem...they're real thick but have a kind of bite that no les paul i ever played has...which i love so it's the best of both worlds IMO! also, i'll send you a PM back in a few i just got yours.

oh and if you want to do it real cheap i'll give you some more info on my tele clone i just built (the gold esquire) b/c you'll be amazed at the price i paid for that guitar and how good it actually is.

-Mike
 
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yes, ash will be brighter if you want dark and thick go with alder IMO. i sent you a PM with a bunch of info...

-Mike
 
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drew_half_empty said:
any reason why?

ash seems like it'd be too bright
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I just really like the way Ash bodies add definition in high gain situations.
 
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what about agathis?

or should i just stay away from it?

i suppose i could also go with an affinity & a new neck, they're made out of alder, but is there a big difference in quality between them & mexis?
 
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If you want a tele with some real low end to it get yourself an alder body and a short scale 24 3/4 tele conversion neck from Warmoth made from Mahogany and Rosewood..... The extra short scale will add lots of lows!!!!

But even if you just ordered a 25 1/2 scale tele neck out of Mahogany it will add some low end for sure!!!! I have been on an all Maple body with Mahogany neck kick for a few years now!!!! The maple or alder body is solid and sounds great and the Mahogany neck adds the lows.

WhoFan
 
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agathis is known as a cheaper substitute for mahogany with almost similar tonal properties.

like mrid, i would suggest a swamp ash body that weighs no more than 5 lbs. tight lows, open mids and sweet highs that screams clarity under high gain. the hot rails is a pretty bassy/middy pickup and it will match well with a swamp ash body.

neck-wise, i would go for all maple. harmonics galore while keeping things really tight. you would want to have a slightly brighter guitar. you can tame brightness with pots/caps value and the tone knob. but you can't add clarity and defination to a muddy guitar.

my .02,
dani
 
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hm, well the j5 bigsby DOES have hot rails & an ash body

maybe i'll just clone it, except without the bigsby...or goofy headstock

and maybe push/pull volume & tone pots that disconnect each from the circuit, so i can have a neck pickup

okay so its not an esquire anymore, any ideas for a neck pickup though? i want something that's gonna be pretty friggin similar to a hot rail, single coil tele neck size or mini hum preferably

you sure it won't sound too bright though? this has to be a really, really mean sounding guitar
 
Re: esquire project

drew_half_empty said:
hm, well the j5 bigsby DOES have hot rails & an ash body

maybe i'll just clone it, except without the bigsby...or goofy headstock

and maybe push/pull volume & tone pots that disconnect each from the circuit, so i can have a neck pickup

okay so its not an esquire anymore, any ideas for a neck pickup though? i want something that's gonna be pretty friggin similar to a hot rail, single coil tele neck size or mini hum preferably

you sure it won't sound too bright though? this has to be a really, really mean sounding guitar
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Xssive (Mike) has several Tele's with bridge Hot Rails and Mini buckers in the neck...they sound mean as hell! If your body had a universal route or a bucker route you could pt a neck hot rail or cool rail in the neck. What the move from the Esquire?
 
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well if i can disconnect the pots via push/pull theres really not much point to having a one pickup guitar, sure the extra magnet will dampen the strings a bit but who cares?

is ash really necessary if i can disconnect the pots for clarity? cuz if not, i could pick up a nashville tele, load it with 2 hot rails, and then a QP tele or hot for tele neck
 
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No offense, but why the fixation on disconnecting the pots via push/pull pots?
 
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for extra brightness, harmonics, & articulation if i need it

you think that I'll really NEED an ash body if i can get brighter tones with the pots?
 
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Don't take this the wrong way buddy, I'm just making a suggestion. I don't know how long you've been playing but you might want to concentrate solely on playing for a while instead of obsessing over your guitar and amp. I'm going to do a warmoth build in the near future too, but I planned it out months ahead of time and it took me about 6 years or so of trying different guitars and just playing to know what I like and don't like about guitars to implement in something custom for myself. I ask the opinion of the guys on the board a lot here too because I get a lot of valuable input as well.

I say that because it seems like you don't really know what you want and you're relying solely on the opinions of others. You complain about your bassman a lot because it's not giving you the sound you want, it's because it's probably not the right amp for you and if you want something with gain and crunch you shouldn't have gotten a bassman to begin with. But it's trial and error. I've gone through tons of gear to find what works for me.

It also seems to me that you've lost the idea of playing music on the guitar. Most of your tone is going to come from inside you, gear only amplifies that. If you're a sucky player, the coolest gear in the world is just going to make you sound even more crappy.

Good luck with it though, I just hate to see you dump money into something you realize down the road really isn't your thing anyway.
 
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i love the bassman 100, i think it sounds amazing

and when cranked, the distortion of my amp mixed with the pedal sounds great, but i'm not getting enough articulation, plus for some songs i'd like a guitar that's more geared towards hi-gain

so thats where the idea of another guitar came from

and i play a lot, whenever i got free time i'll play for a bit, then take a break & check this & my e-mail & such, then back to playing

I write a new song like every week, and i'm constantly taking lessons & getting videos & such
 
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