Everyone’s telling me not to buy a 12u Rack...

[PFDarkside]

As the title says, every time I mention a new rack case, everyone says “NOT A BIG ONE!”

Unlike pedals, you kind of do need a rack case to use everything. You can stack a few units but after about 3 it’s too much. Not to mention the spaghetti of wires needs to be tamed.

I a 6u Roto molded case. Should I add a 2nd, they will stack, and use two intelligently thought out patch/power/MIDI cables to connect them? if I do this, I’ll try to have it setup so one is all “amps” and amp-related and the other is “effects” so it could be used with a different head.

Thoughts?

 

[Securb]

My 12 is heavy as heck and difficult to load in some cars. Mine is for PA, I can't imagine having a guitar rig (again) in a 12 rack. Did it in the 90s won't do it again.

 

[Mincer]

Are you gonna move it, or will it be furniture? If you are moving it, I'd go for 3 4-space racks. If not, then it doesn't matter. But the ergonomics of moving something like 12 spaces will be a hassle- special vehicle, a friend to help, etc.

 

[Demanic]

I can get what everyone is saying. But if you want it and are capable of transporting it, go for it!

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[PFDarkside]

Are you gonna move it, or will it be furniture? If you are moving it, I'd go for 3 4-space racks.

I think this is the question. Am I going to leave this in the basement and when everything opens up just put the “greatest hits” back in the 6u rack or am I going to try to heft this thing around.

 

[Mincer]

well, if it is in the basement, and you want to eventually move it up and down the basement stairs..what's the condition of your back?

 

[beaubrummels]

I currently have a 6, 4 and 2 space racks. I switch things up and don't use the same setup all the time, and sometimes have to play smaller places, or more specific music, so.. need to be able to mix and match. I was in a band with a 12 space in the 1980's, had a 6 channel mixer, some effects and a power amp in it, and no casters. It was a two-man haul that should have just been furniture. Never again.

 

[ehdwuld]

hand truck

just saying

 

[beaubrummels]

hand truck

just saying

Hand trucks don't go everywhere the gig/stage is.

 

[ehdwuld]

Well until then they are nice


Wait a min

Like where?

Back of a swamp?

Ten foot up a ladder?

C'mon man

 

[Mincer]

hand truck

just saying

That works so well up the steps of a basement.

 

[ehdwuld]

if you can't get to the gig with a hand truck
you need to rethink how you book gigs

 

[Demanic]

That works so well up the steps of a basement.

It does if you know what you are doing.

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[beaubrummels]

if you can't get to the gig with a hand truck
you need to rethink how you book gigs

You obviously haven't played outdoor festivals with hand built/scaffold/flatbed truck stages, dirt/mud back stage areas, and 1000 obstacles between parking and the stage; or small hole in the wall european cafe/bars with parking blocks away and steep cobblestone hills every direction ... I could go on.

 

[PFDarkside]

You obviously haven't played outdoor festivals with hand built/scaffold/flatbed truck stages, dirt/mud back stage areas, and 1000 obstacles between parking and the stage; or small hole in the wall european cafe/bars with parking blocks away and steep cobblestone hills every direction ... I could go on.

Man, if I was a smaller band playing gigs like that, a Helix/Kemper/AxeFX with a controller board, monitor and PA feed makes so much sense.

 

[Mincer]

It does if you know what you are doing.

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Yeah, but if you have the choice to make it easier now, you take it.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

A pair of sixes would be a lot more convenient. Just sayin'.

Six space is about the max for easy carrying and fitting conveniently in various cars.

 

[Synapsys]

You obviously haven't played outdoor festivals with hand built/scaffold/flatbed truck stages, dirt/mud back stage areas, and 1000 obstacles between parking and the stage; or small hole in the wall european cafe/bars with parking blocks away and steep cobblestone hills every direction ... I could go on.

I know well the european bit you mentioned. That's the reason I went Helix last week.

 

[PFDarkside]

I currently have a 6, 4 and 2 space racks. I switch things up and don't use the same setup all the time, and sometimes have to play smaller places, or more specific music, so.. need to be able to mix and match. I was in a band with a 12 space in the 1980's, had a 6 channel mixer, some effects and a power amp in it, and no casters. It was a two-man haul that should have just been furniture. Never again.

So you are swapping things around based on what you need at the time? Do you ever need more than one case?

 

[ehdwuld]

You obviously haven't played outdoor festivals with hand built/scaffold/flatbed truck stages, dirt/mud back stage areas, and 1000 obstacles between parking and the stage; or small hole in the wall european cafe/bars with parking blocks away and steep cobblestone hills every direction ... I could go on.

are you saying that physically carrying a heavy bulking case is preferable to a wheeled anything
you have never heard of pneumatic wheels?
they go over mud and cobblestone,
you dont climb obstacles when walking, you go around them same as with a hand cart

you obviously dont want to be wrong