Favorite PAF Replica
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DreX
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uOpt
Something Cool
Re: Favorite PAF Replica
That's a much better post than saying you can't hear it although it's there
That's a much better post than saying you can't hear it although it's there
DreX
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Re: Favorite PAF Replica
Are you saying that any difference between one pickup and another has to be audible? You could just say that, instead of "Posts like that are why people hate you."
That's a much better post than saying you can't hear it although it's there
Are you saying that any difference between one pickup and another has to be audible? You could just say that, instead of "Posts like that are why people hate you."
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Favorite PAF Replica
Could it be the hands and not the PU's? I really like my Fralins.
Could it be the hands and not the PU's? I really like my Fralins.
HALENisking
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Re: Favorite PAF Replica
Jesus man, that seems completely uncalled for. Lets try to keep thoughtless stuff like that off of such a great forum eh?
Jesus man, that seems completely uncalled for. Lets try to keep thoughtless stuff like that off of such a great forum eh?
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Edgecrusher
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Re: Favorite PAF Replica
I dont get it... First I dont see whats wrong with his post.
2nd why would you come out and insult him like that? You've been running around here talking about how trolls drag people down how you know the psychology of it and then BAM you walk face first into it?
I dont get it... First I dont see whats wrong with his post.
2nd why would you come out and insult him like that? You've been running around here talking about how trolls drag people down how you know the psychology of it and then BAM you walk face first into it?
beaubrummels
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Re: Favorite PAF Replica
Not a chance, pal. For consistency. One cannot be one person in one thread and a different person in another. Speaking of the closed thread...
I've poured over your posts looking for your credentials as a musician and guitarist. I cannot find any. That's really all there is to it.
As for me, I've been a recording studio owner and producer for the past 20 years, have toured 30/50 states and a half dozen foreign countries, typically play in 2-3 bands at a time, began my professional career at the age of 12 playing monthly and have gigged at least twice a month for more than 35 years. I don't have any Grammy's or major name-check credentials, but I have worked in the business for more years than you've been alive. And note I contributed to this thread and answered the OP with my personal experience on page 1. You simply wasted everyone's time derailing it on page 3-4 with ungrounded supposition.
Not a chance, pal. For consistency. One cannot be one person in one thread and a different person in another. Speaking of the closed thread...
DreX said:
I've poured over your posts looking for your credentials as a musician and guitarist. I cannot find any. That's really all there is to it.
As for me, I've been a recording studio owner and producer for the past 20 years, have toured 30/50 states and a half dozen foreign countries, typically play in 2-3 bands at a time, began my professional career at the age of 12 playing monthly and have gigged at least twice a month for more than 35 years. I don't have any Grammy's or major name-check credentials, but I have worked in the business for more years than you've been alive. And note I contributed to this thread and answered the OP with my personal experience on page 1. You simply wasted everyone's time derailing it on page 3-4 with ungrounded supposition.
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SAVAGE DISTORTION
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Re: Favorite PAF Replica
For me i prefer the original roughcast versions over the more modern and more commonly used polished alnico.
The duncan whole lotta humbucker is what got me into these and i bought a used guitar that had a really old JB that also has a roughcast magnet.
They seem to sound better(smoother not as spikey) to me?
For me i prefer the original roughcast versions over the more modern and more commonly used polished alnico.
The duncan whole lotta humbucker is what got me into these and i bought a used guitar that had a really old JB that also has a roughcast magnet.
They seem to sound better(smoother not as spikey) to me?
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Re: Favorite PAF Replica
4406cuda- THIS IS FOR YOU-your question on what MAGNET type for PAF TONE.
This is aimed directly at you, and if it helps someone else then good. I hope it helps you.
I have tried (short story) almost 15 PAF winds, from different companies. Dimarzio and Gibson too. Some-like the Throwback, Stephens Designs, and 1 or 2 other boutiques are so far out of my price range I could not try personally. But here is the thing, they sound good right out of the box, Electric City I should mention also. But I found with cheap magnet swapping I could drastically, IMO, alter reasonably priced (4 of them-all Duncans-different paf winds) humbuckers that I ALREADY HAD to sound the way I want. I figured this saved me probably $2,000.00 as the 4 I had were instantly transformed to do what they do BETTER with the A4, in every case. 4 different vintage winds! Seth L., Antiquity Bridge, Jazz Neck, Jazz Bridge.
I tried A2, A3, A5, A8, UOA5, A2 polished, A5 polished, none of them did it for me. The roughcast A4 finally rang the bell.
I swear to god i don't care what anyone says, no, I take that back, I do care, what I mean to say is that FOR ME, all 7-9K winds, A4, let me say it again, A4 Magnets sound so much more like the PAF sound "I" have IN MY HEAD. Especially the 7.5-8.5 winds.
The whole lotta Humbucker is wound on purpose for an A5 Magnet so that one does not apply in this post.
The Seth Lovers, Antiquities, both SH-2 Jazz(bridge AND neck) with A4 magnets seem to help every vintage style humbucker get a kick in the ass around the mid and upper mid, that I need never look to another humbucker for the rest of my life. The A4 in my Seth Lover finally allowed me to feel good about selling my real PAF and not regreting it.
That is my story and I am sticking to it.
Steven J. Buffington
4406cuda- THIS IS FOR YOU-your question on what MAGNET type for PAF TONE.
This is aimed directly at you, and if it helps someone else then good. I hope it helps you.
I have tried (short story) almost 15 PAF winds, from different companies. Dimarzio and Gibson too. Some-like the Throwback, Stephens Designs, and 1 or 2 other boutiques are so far out of my price range I could not try personally. But here is the thing, they sound good right out of the box, Electric City I should mention also. But I found with cheap magnet swapping I could drastically, IMO, alter reasonably priced (4 of them-all Duncans-different paf winds) humbuckers that I ALREADY HAD to sound the way I want. I figured this saved me probably $2,000.00 as the 4 I had were instantly transformed to do what they do BETTER with the A4, in every case. 4 different vintage winds! Seth L., Antiquity Bridge, Jazz Neck, Jazz Bridge.
I tried A2, A3, A5, A8, UOA5, A2 polished, A5 polished, none of them did it for me. The roughcast A4 finally rang the bell.
I swear to god i don't care what anyone says, no, I take that back, I do care, what I mean to say is that FOR ME, all 7-9K winds, A4, let me say it again, A4 Magnets sound so much more like the PAF sound "I" have IN MY HEAD. Especially the 7.5-8.5 winds.
The whole lotta Humbucker is wound on purpose for an A5 Magnet so that one does not apply in this post.
The Seth Lovers, Antiquities, both SH-2 Jazz(bridge AND neck) with A4 magnets seem to help every vintage style humbucker get a kick in the ass around the mid and upper mid, that I need never look to another humbucker for the rest of my life. The A4 in my Seth Lover finally allowed me to feel good about selling my real PAF and not regreting it.
That is my story and I am sticking to it.
Steven J. Buffington
Edgecrusher
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Re: Favorite PAF Replica
Eh... this is a bit of supposition. In the receipts that still exist many dont even specify alnico type they just say "magnets" While the A4 is the most commonly named one they cant account for every mag that gibson every bought. Or if they went into PAFs for P90's. Its still a bit of guess work at the end of the day they know that multiple types were used.
Eh... this is a bit of supposition. In the receipts that still exist many dont even specify alnico type they just say "magnets" While the A4 is the most commonly named one they cant account for every mag that gibson every bought. Or if they went into PAFs for P90's. Its still a bit of guess work at the end of the day they know that multiple types were used.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Favorite PAF Replica
Reminds me of the conversation I had several years ago with Lindy Fralin. You're not Lindy using a pseudonym, are you?
Reminds me of the conversation I had several years ago with Lindy Fralin. You're not Lindy using a pseudonym, are you?
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: Favorite PAF Replica
It is pretty quick and easy to try all magnet types. I did it in a Jazz, a Custom and a JB pair of coils.
A2 and A5 are the musical choices, IMHO. A4 and A8 lack a certain form of "sweet" overtones that are just missing. A8 is also very loud. A3 I perceive the same way as degaussed A5.
My Fralin PAF probably has A4. I don't like it and people didn't bite when I wanted to sell it. I am not impressed. It is also possible that a 1955 mix of A4 had important differences in how much of each metal was mixed in, specifically, compared to a 2005 one.
It is pretty quick and easy to try all magnet types. I did it in a Jazz, a Custom and a JB pair of coils.
A2 and A5 are the musical choices, IMHO. A4 and A8 lack a certain form of "sweet" overtones that are just missing. A8 is also very loud. A3 I perceive the same way as degaussed A5.
My Fralin PAF probably has A4. I don't like it and people didn't bite when I wanted to sell it. I am not impressed. It is also possible that a 1955 mix of A4 had important differences in how much of each metal was mixed in, specifically, compared to a 2005 one.
LtKojak
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Re: Favorite PAF Replica
Everyone is a "little" different from the other... hell, even in the same foundry, different batches of the same Alnico grade might sound and/or "behave" differently!
I have first-hand, actual experience on the subject.
HTH,
This can be applied to every Alnico grade and source.
Everyone is a "little" different from the other... hell, even in the same foundry, different batches of the same Alnico grade might sound and/or "behave" differently!
I have first-hand, actual experience on the subject.
HTH,
Re: Favorite PAF Replica
uOpt,
While I agree with what you say about A3, and the A8 didn't really sound loud to me at all, some one said the wind I was using wasn't hot enough to "hear" how loud an A8 could be (?) a Seth wind being the one I tried it in. I have no idea if this is true or not. This being said:
It just shows how different we all are. In general, from years of reading the, one of my most respected members likes the A2. I just can't stand the mushy, blah, meh nature of the ones I have tried in many different pups. The PG 's have A2's and while I haven't played one, they get a reputation of a pickup I would love! That must be some very different winding than a Seth or Antiquity.
Same for A5, MJ told me that would beef up my Seth to the PAF tone I liked in my PAF. But although it was much better, I came to dislike the boominess, and lack of mids, so because of some recommendations here, I broke down and ordered just about all the mags you can try from addFX, and set about trying every one in each of the 4 main Duncan pups I felt best suited me.
Edgecrusher , Pepe, and all of everyone's points are valid, so it just comes down to me saying IMO, although I feel a little intimidated by all of you folks who differ, as I look up to so many of you.
So as there is no arguing w/opinions really, for me, the A4 does it.
Don't mean to waste time, just want you good folks to know I do listen hard to your facts AND opinions.
Thanks-sj
uOpt,
While I agree with what you say about A3, and the A8 didn't really sound loud to me at all, some one said the wind I was using wasn't hot enough to "hear" how loud an A8 could be (?) a Seth wind being the one I tried it in. I have no idea if this is true or not. This being said:
It just shows how different we all are. In general, from years of reading the, one of my most respected members likes the A2. I just can't stand the mushy, blah, meh nature of the ones I have tried in many different pups. The PG 's have A2's and while I haven't played one, they get a reputation of a pickup I would love! That must be some very different winding than a Seth or Antiquity.
Same for A5, MJ told me that would beef up my Seth to the PAF tone I liked in my PAF. But although it was much better, I came to dislike the boominess, and lack of mids, so because of some recommendations here, I broke down and ordered just about all the mags you can try from addFX, and set about trying every one in each of the 4 main Duncan pups I felt best suited me.
Edgecrusher , Pepe, and all of everyone's points are valid, so it just comes down to me saying IMO, although I feel a little intimidated by all of you folks who differ, as I look up to so many of you.
So as there is no arguing w/opinions really, for me, the A4 does it.
Don't mean to waste time, just want you good folks to know I do listen hard to your facts AND opinions.
Thanks-sj
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Lake Placid Blues
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Re: Favorite PAF Replica
I like A4 in a neck PAF depending on the guitar. My boutique PAF set is A2 and the neck pickup was a little too spongey when it was in my H/H (maple top-hog) tele. A4 fixed that..in that guitar. I now have the set in an all hog PRS and it likes the A2 back in the neck pup. Just a different guitar.
I like A4 in a neck PAF depending on the guitar. My boutique PAF set is A2 and the neck pickup was a little too spongey when it was in my H/H (maple top-hog) tele. A4 fixed that..in that guitar. I now have the set in an all hog PRS and it likes the A2 back in the neck pup. Just a different guitar.