Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
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jmv
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Re: Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
Well....
The 65 twin reverb reissue (i assume when you say 65 reverb reissue, you mean the twin reverb) is not a channel switching amp. Although you have one channel for your straight cleans, and one for cleans with reverb/tremolo. But if you want distortion on one of these, you either need to crank it ALL the way up (which is pretty darn loud on a twin reverb... remember, tube watts are loud!!). If you're playing larger venues, this might work well for you.
OR, you could get your distortion sound with pedals. Assuming of course you want some sort of distortion sound.
The hot rod has a distortion channel already, but its voiced kinda modern, and i know several people who don't like its tone. Most people would say that the twin reverb has a better tone, but it really depends what you want it for. The twin has a wonderful clean sound, very shimmery, sparkly sort of cleans. I personally would buy a twin reverb reissue of those two, but i'd suggest you go try both of them out if at all possible.
And one more thing... its always cool if you can get the real thing rather than a reissue. Check local shops, guitar shows, and, if you're comfortable with this... ebay. I'd be hesitant about buying vintage gear of any sort on there, personally. Also, since twin reverbs in good condition could get kinda expensive, you could also look for a nice Pro Reverb, which is nearly the same circuitry, but an output of 40 watts (or thereabouts, i know its less than the twin, though).
Well....
The 65 twin reverb reissue (i assume when you say 65 reverb reissue, you mean the twin reverb) is not a channel switching amp. Although you have one channel for your straight cleans, and one for cleans with reverb/tremolo. But if you want distortion on one of these, you either need to crank it ALL the way up (which is pretty darn loud on a twin reverb... remember, tube watts are loud!!). If you're playing larger venues, this might work well for you.
OR, you could get your distortion sound with pedals. Assuming of course you want some sort of distortion sound.
The hot rod has a distortion channel already, but its voiced kinda modern, and i know several people who don't like its tone. Most people would say that the twin reverb has a better tone, but it really depends what you want it for. The twin has a wonderful clean sound, very shimmery, sparkly sort of cleans. I personally would buy a twin reverb reissue of those two, but i'd suggest you go try both of them out if at all possible.
And one more thing... its always cool if you can get the real thing rather than a reissue. Check local shops, guitar shows, and, if you're comfortable with this... ebay. I'd be hesitant about buying vintage gear of any sort on there, personally. Also, since twin reverbs in good condition could get kinda expensive, you could also look for a nice Pro Reverb, which is nearly the same circuitry, but an output of 40 watts (or thereabouts, i know its less than the twin, though).
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Skarekrough
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Re: Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
The amps are very different.
The Deluxe Reverb Reissue is a true recreation of a legendary amp. It isn't totally true to the original; it's PCB and not PTP wiring. However, the circuit is the same dsign as the original, it just uses modern components to get there. The amp is alot more versatile than you'd think. The major selling point is the very desired blackfaced Fender sound. All in all right out of the box it's a tone machine of an amp!
The HotRod Deluxe is a more modern-sounding amp. As an owner of one (as well as a Deluxe Reverb Reissue) I find the gain channel to be abysmal for the most part. The reverb isn't all that fantastic. It does do a nice clean, but it never really gets cheeky until you lean on it very hard. You can use pedals to get your sounds, but then pretty much any amp that has any headroom will suffice for the task if that's the case.
As I said I've owned both and have played both. The Deluxe Reverb Reissue is the keeper. I'm in the process of unloading the HotRod Deluxe; it's an amp but not really all that notable of one tonally.
The amps are very different.
The Deluxe Reverb Reissue is a true recreation of a legendary amp. It isn't totally true to the original; it's PCB and not PTP wiring. However, the circuit is the same dsign as the original, it just uses modern components to get there. The amp is alot more versatile than you'd think. The major selling point is the very desired blackfaced Fender sound. All in all right out of the box it's a tone machine of an amp!
The HotRod Deluxe is a more modern-sounding amp. As an owner of one (as well as a Deluxe Reverb Reissue) I find the gain channel to be abysmal for the most part. The reverb isn't all that fantastic. It does do a nice clean, but it never really gets cheeky until you lean on it very hard. You can use pedals to get your sounds, but then pretty much any amp that has any headroom will suffice for the task if that's the case.
As I said I've owned both and have played both. The Deluxe Reverb Reissue is the keeper. I'm in the process of unloading the HotRod Deluxe; it's an amp but not really all that notable of one tonally.
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Lewguitar
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Re: Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
I owned a Blues Deville with 4 10's for a short while. ( Or was it a Hot Rod Deville? Now I can't remember! I think it was a Blues Deville...) It was OK...didn't really compare in quality to my original Super Reverb though.
The Deville did let me get a distorted tone at a low volume...the Super has to be cranked up to a loud volume to get natural distortion, unless you want to use a TS-9 or DS-1 overdrive pedal. That's a good way to go actually.
The Super Reverb has real tube driven reverb! MUCH BETTER reverb than the solid state reverb in the other amp.
Lew
I owned a Blues Deville with 4 10's for a short while. ( Or was it a Hot Rod Deville? Now I can't remember! I think it was a Blues Deville...) It was OK...didn't really compare in quality to my original Super Reverb though.
The Deville did let me get a distorted tone at a low volume...the Super has to be cranked up to a loud volume to get natural distortion, unless you want to use a TS-9 or DS-1 overdrive pedal. That's a good way to go actually.
The Super Reverb has real tube driven reverb! MUCH BETTER reverb than the solid state reverb in the other amp.
Lew
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drew_half_empty
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Re: Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
the hot rod has, well, the cleans are kinda classic sounding, a little bite, to me it sounds like what a clean electric guitar SHOULD sound like, not necessarily the best, but yeah. It's also relatively cheap to retube, the distortion channel is nice as a boost but thats about it, if you're getting a 2x12 I'd say look into the eminence legend gb12, stock they come with 2 125's and one of each of those seems to be like the dynamite clean combo for eminence. 60 watts is more than enough headroom too, but if you don't like headroom, like i said, its relatively cheap to retube, and cheap altogether, so an attenuator could be bought with the extra.
twin is well, its a twin. It has been countless people's favorite clean sound for a long long time. Downside is its cost, and the good 400 or so you'd spend retubing. It's more of a vintage shimmery sparkly sound, not marshall sparkly but, well, you get the point
the hot rod has, well, the cleans are kinda classic sounding, a little bite, to me it sounds like what a clean electric guitar SHOULD sound like, not necessarily the best, but yeah. It's also relatively cheap to retube, the distortion channel is nice as a boost but thats about it, if you're getting a 2x12 I'd say look into the eminence legend gb12, stock they come with 2 125's and one of each of those seems to be like the dynamite clean combo for eminence. 60 watts is more than enough headroom too, but if you don't like headroom, like i said, its relatively cheap to retube, and cheap altogether, so an attenuator could be bought with the extra.
twin is well, its a twin. It has been countless people's favorite clean sound for a long long time. Downside is its cost, and the good 400 or so you'd spend retubing. It's more of a vintage shimmery sparkly sound, not marshall sparkly but, well, you get the point
Bludave
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Re: Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
The Super Reverb RI would be a better bet than the Twin. The Twin is an amazing Amp, but as someone else said they are very loud. If loud and clean is what you want, you would not be able to find a better amp than the Twin. The Super Reverb, and the Deluxe are both real good choices. The SRRI is 40 watts the DRRI is 22 watts. The SRRI has 4 10" speakers, the Deluxe has either 1 12" or 1 10" I don't remember. As someone else said shop around for a used one. The Sivers are still pretty reasonable, and I believe they are made better. The new amps have the tube sockets mounted on PC boards. The original BF & SF are wired to the chasis. They will hold up better, and IMO sound better. Get a good OD pedal in front of any of these Amps and you have channel swiching capability. The TS9 RI or DS1 are both excellent OD pedals in front of this type of Amp. I would go this way over the newer design amps.
The Super Reverb RI would be a better bet than the Twin. The Twin is an amazing Amp, but as someone else said they are very loud. If loud and clean is what you want, you would not be able to find a better amp than the Twin. The Super Reverb, and the Deluxe are both real good choices. The SRRI is 40 watts the DRRI is 22 watts. The SRRI has 4 10" speakers, the Deluxe has either 1 12" or 1 10" I don't remember. As someone else said shop around for a used one. The Sivers are still pretty reasonable, and I believe they are made better. The new amps have the tube sockets mounted on PC boards. The original BF & SF are wired to the chasis. They will hold up better, and IMO sound better. Get a good OD pedal in front of any of these Amps and you have channel swiching capability. The TS9 RI or DS1 are both excellent OD pedals in front of this type of Amp. I would go this way over the newer design amps.
Stevo
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Re: Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
The Deville has lots of headroom and the clean sound is very clean. I don't care for the distortion on that amp though. I don't like the reverb either. I tried different tubes and a few different speakers, but I just could not get the tone I wanted.
The 65 Twin reissue is more of a vintage sounding amp. When cranked, or when using an attenuator, the distortion is pretty killer. That would be my choice. It does not have a footswitch for distortion/boost, but you could get around that with an A/B switch. That's what I did with my silverface twin.
If you are just going for a clean sound, with 2 channels, I would suggest getting a 70s silverface twin. If you want more vintage sound, then get the 65 Twin RI. If you want versatility, go for the Deville. The modern twin might be a possibility too, but the price might not be right.
The Deville has lots of headroom and the clean sound is very clean. I don't care for the distortion on that amp though. I don't like the reverb either. I tried different tubes and a few different speakers, but I just could not get the tone I wanted.
The 65 Twin reissue is more of a vintage sounding amp. When cranked, or when using an attenuator, the distortion is pretty killer. That would be my choice. It does not have a footswitch for distortion/boost, but you could get around that with an A/B switch. That's what I did with my silverface twin.
If you are just going for a clean sound, with 2 channels, I would suggest getting a 70s silverface twin. If you want more vintage sound, then get the 65 Twin RI. If you want versatility, go for the Deville. The modern twin might be a possibility too, but the price might not be right.
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Re: Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
The "Blues" line became the "HotRod" line. The Blues Junior being the only remaining exception to that rule.
Lewguitar said:
The "Blues" line became the "HotRod" line. The Blues Junior being the only remaining exception to that rule.
RockNRoling
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Re: Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
I have owned both amps, and they both have good and bad points.
The DEVILLE: Great amp with a good clean sound, but that sound gets really muddy if you push the amp too much. But the sound you get is nice and full.
The TWIN: Great amp lots of headroom, and incredible low end! The down side to this amp is that you really can not get any break up out of the pre amp. (this amp should have a TubeScreamer if you want that). My biggest frustration I have been having with my amp is that it sounds a little hollow, and not as full as i would like. This is more apperent with my strat than with any other guitar. It has that deep low end, and really bright highs, that its hard to get a nice even tone out of it. I tried cranking the mids up, but that just drowns out all the monitor mixes and stuff. But there is no other amp that can sound like the Twin Reverb either!!
I would recomend getting the CRATE V3112 over the Deville. It has much better tone and a SWEET overdrive (30w class A power amp). Plus that one has the sping reverb, not all that digital junk the rest of the V series has.
I have owned both amps, and they both have good and bad points.
The DEVILLE: Great amp with a good clean sound, but that sound gets really muddy if you push the amp too much. But the sound you get is nice and full.
The TWIN: Great amp lots of headroom, and incredible low end! The down side to this amp is that you really can not get any break up out of the pre amp. (this amp should have a TubeScreamer if you want that). My biggest frustration I have been having with my amp is that it sounds a little hollow, and not as full as i would like. This is more apperent with my strat than with any other guitar. It has that deep low end, and really bright highs, that its hard to get a nice even tone out of it. I tried cranking the mids up, but that just drowns out all the monitor mixes and stuff. But there is no other amp that can sound like the Twin Reverb either!!
I would recomend getting the CRATE V3112 over the Deville. It has much better tone and a SWEET overdrive (30w class A power amp). Plus that one has the sping reverb, not all that digital junk the rest of the V series has.
Gearjoneser
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Re: Fender Deville 2x12 Vs 65 Reverb Re-issue
I've also owned both of them, including the 59 reissue and 65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue.
Honestly.....don't buy any of them. All of them are decent, but no dice.
For similar money, check out the newer Pro Tube Series Pro, Twin, and Concert.
Also, the Bassbreaker, Bassman LTD, or a used Vibroking. If you're spending over $500, go for $1400 amps being sacrificed for less.
I've also owned both of them, including the 59 reissue and 65 Deluxe Reverb Reissue.
Honestly.....don't buy any of them. All of them are decent, but no dice.
For similar money, check out the newer Pro Tube Series Pro, Twin, and Concert.
Also, the Bassbreaker, Bassman LTD, or a used Vibroking. If you're spending over $500, go for $1400 amps being sacrificed for less.
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