astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
New Switching. These are all the mods for now. I have another one in mind but it involves removing wood and I've got too much on my plate right now in other areas of my life. 
Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
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Funkfingers
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Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
The three-way selector is a good idea. A Freeway switch might have been even more clever. (There is enough space for one under the control plate.) Do you still have the Bass Cut slider switch in circuit?
The three-way selector is a good idea. A Freeway switch might have been even more clever. (There is enough space for one under the control plate.) Do you still have the Bass Cut slider switch in circuit?
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
... I can't get it to work.
Not with this new circuit.
... I can't get it to work.
Not with this new circuit.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
The slider switch simply diverts some low frequencies to ground via the capacitor. Connect it to the output of the selector switch. Alternatively, rejig the switch for something more useful such as phase reversal or series/parallel.
The slider switch simply diverts some low frequencies to ground via the capacitor. Connect it to the output of the selector switch. Alternatively, rejig the switch for something more useful such as phase reversal or series/parallel.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
Here we go...
I put the 3 way switch on the left most lug on the volume pot in that diagram. I tried putting the slider switch wire there and got nothing. I put it where it is in the diagram here and it just turned my guitar all the way off.
Here we go...
I put the 3 way switch on the left most lug on the volume pot in that diagram. I tried putting the slider switch wire there and got nothing. I put it where it is in the diagram here and it just turned my guitar all the way off.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
The diagram that you have posted is for a conventional single coil Jaguar. I would expect several elements of the HH Jaguar circuit to deviate from the vintage norm.
It seems to me that, according to the SD schematic, the capacitor on the Bass Cut switch is always in circuit. Just that, in the "off" position, the cap is in parallel with the connection between the internal contacts of the slider switch.
The diagram that you have posted is for a conventional single coil Jaguar. I would expect several elements of the HH Jaguar circuit to deviate from the vintage norm.
It seems to me that, according to the SD schematic, the capacitor on the Bass Cut switch is always in circuit. Just that, in the "off" position, the cap is in parallel with the connection between the internal contacts of the slider switch.
Demina
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Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
I have a 50th Anniversary Jaguar as well as the HH discussed here, and the circuits are the same. They are also the same as the 62 AVRI Diagram on Fender's site. However the SD diagram here is not 100% the same as those models, (but it may be correct for an actual vintage model.) On the guitars I have, both upper and lower tone caps are .01mfd. Also the SD Diagram does not have the 56k resistor that goes between the right and middle terminals of the lower tone pot.
This is correct.
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To the OP: If you have it wired as in the diagram, with the toggle wired to one side of the capacitor and the other side of the cap goes to the tone/vol controls, and the bass cut switch shuts the guitar off, you may have an open capacitor. You can try replacing the capacitor, or just use it as a kill switch!
Also note that connecting the toggle to the volume control as you mentioned, rather than the tone control, you have slightly modified the tone circuit, because it's different on a Jaguar than on most guitars. I do not know if doing that makes any noticeable difference in the sound though.
I have a 50th Anniversary Jaguar as well as the HH discussed here, and the circuits are the same. They are also the same as the 62 AVRI Diagram on Fender's site. However the SD diagram here is not 100% the same as those models, (but it may be correct for an actual vintage model.) On the guitars I have, both upper and lower tone caps are .01mfd. Also the SD Diagram does not have the 56k resistor that goes between the right and middle terminals of the lower tone pot.
This is correct.
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To the OP: If you have it wired as in the diagram, with the toggle wired to one side of the capacitor and the other side of the cap goes to the tone/vol controls, and the bass cut switch shuts the guitar off, you may have an open capacitor. You can try replacing the capacitor, or just use it as a kill switch!
Also note that connecting the toggle to the volume control as you mentioned, rather than the tone control, you have slightly modified the tone circuit, because it's different on a Jaguar than on most guitars. I do not know if doing that makes any noticeable difference in the sound though.
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astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
my tone control doesn't really have a lot of travel. from 10-2 the sound is the same. it's only when I roll it all the way down that the guitar goes dark.
I have a 50th Anniversary Jaguar as well as the HH discussed here, and the circuits are the same. They are also the same as the 62 AVRI Diagram on Fender's site. However the SD diagram here is not 100% the same as those models, (but it may be correct for an actual vintage model.) On the guitars I have, both upper and lower tone caps are .01mfd. Also the SD Diagram does not have the 56k resistor that goes between the right and middle terminals of the lower tone pot.
This is correct.
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To the OP: If you have it wired as in the diagram, with the toggle wired to one side of the capacitor and the other side of the cap goes to the tone/vol controls, and the bass cut switch shuts the guitar off, you may have an open capacitor. You can try replacing the capacitor, or just use it as a kill switch!
Also note that connecting the toggle to the volume control as you mentioned, rather than the tone control, you have slightly modified the tone circuit, because it's different on a Jaguar than on most guitars. I do not know if doing that makes any noticeable difference in the sound though.
my tone control doesn't really have a lot of travel. from 10-2 the sound is the same. it's only when I roll it all the way down that the guitar goes dark.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
That is a 1Meg pot for you. Expensive ones behave the same way only, maybe, the transition is a little smoother.
That is a 1Meg pot for you. Expensive ones behave the same way only, maybe, the transition is a little smoother.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
I don't like it. Both pots are replacement parts. The volume is 500k, I have another one around. Maybe I should try that.
I don't like it. Both pots are replacement parts. The volume is 500k, I have another one around. Maybe I should try that.
Demina
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Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
That very well may be because of where you connected the toggle to the volume control. I've never wired one quite the way you have, so I don't know. I would wire it back like the diagram, and see if that doesn't fix the tone control, and if it does, then troubleshoot the strangle switch problem.
That very well may be because of where you connected the toggle to the volume control. I've never wired one quite the way you have, so I don't know. I would wire it back like the diagram, and see if that doesn't fix the tone control, and if it does, then troubleshoot the strangle switch problem.
Demina
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Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
I went back and read what you said when you posted the diagram and now I'm not sure I understand exactly what you did. Just to make sure we're on the same page, here is how I would suggest you wire it. This should be just like stock, but with the toggle replacing the two slide switches:
I went back and read what you said when you posted the diagram and now I'm not sure I understand exactly what you did. Just to make sure we're on the same page, here is how I would suggest you wire it. This should be just like stock, but with the toggle replacing the two slide switches:
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
The old parts were fried anyway, burnt from when I was learing the ins and outs of soldering.
I don't know what the 56k resistor does.
crap i wish i would have seen this before I threw out the old 2 way switch.
The old parts were fried anyway, burnt from when I was learing the ins and outs of soldering.
I don't know what the 56k resistor does.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
Glenn. In August, you posted that you were going to remove the two Dimarzio humbuckers in the black HH Jaguar. What pickups are in it now?
Glenn. In August, you posted that you were going to remove the two Dimarzio humbuckers in the black HH Jaguar. What pickups are in it now?
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
The stock fender humbuckers, surprisingly. They sound great through my Vox.
The stock fender humbuckers, surprisingly. They sound great through my Vox.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
My model isn't the blacktop although visually there are a number of similarities.
Search for parts on eBay, I've seen a few.
My model isn't the blacktop although visually there are a number of similarities.
Search for parts on eBay, I've seen a few.
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Funkfingers
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Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
In my opinion, this is a backward step. You have undone some good work so as not to show up your bandmates' cruddy instruments. It would be better if they had made upgrades to bring them up to the standard of your Jaguar when it had Dimarzio pickups.
In my opinion, this is a backward step. You have undone some good work so as not to show up your bandmates' cruddy instruments. It would be better if they had made upgrades to bring them up to the standard of your Jaguar when it had Dimarzio pickups.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Fender Jaguar HH Glamour Shots III
It's the sort of thing you'd have to hear in person, but my guitar really does sound great through my amplifier. I think the one I have is a particularly good one because I've tried others that have felt "dead".
As for everyone else, save for the singer's SG Standard, yes, some upgrades are in order... but I think it's more than parts.
It's the sort of thing you'd have to hear in person, but my guitar really does sound great through my amplifier. I think the one I have is a particularly good one because I've tried others that have felt "dead".
As for everyone else, save for the singer's SG Standard, yes, some upgrades are in order... but I think it's more than parts.
