Fender Showman Reverb - experience?

krankguitarist

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Checkin out a Fender Showman Reverb amp in a local guitar shop round here. Looks pretty old, two channels, "normal" and "vibrato". Looked like a head at first glance, but its actually a combo w/ two 8" speakers (at least, thats what they looked like).

Plugged into it, sounded pretty damn good. Wasn't able to spend too much time with it though. Very clean amp, though I did notice that the chassis did rattle *a little* as I started turning up the volume a bit. Could just be somthing loose in there, but its got an extention jack for a speaker cabinet anyways.

'twas about 400 dollars. I'm wondering if anybody's got any experience with these things...or has any information about them?
 
Re: Fender Showman Reverb - experience?

Looking at a few websites, and a few auctions...I can't find a combo version yet. Though the heads look pretty much exactly the same...I wonder if the 8" speakers were a modification.
 
Re: Fender Showman Reverb - experience?

The Fender Showman amp was essentially a head version of the Twin Reverb, without the combo's reverb. Factory cabinets came in a 112, 115 and 215 versions--the latter known as the "Dual" Showman. Speakers were a JBL D-120 or D-130s. (Later on, a 15" bass speaker--the D-140, was offered as an option so bassists could use the powerful Showman amp.)

In the mid-'60s, these cabinets were small, and fairly compact--and IMHO, they are some of the best speaker cabs ever built. Also note the small Bassman and Bandmaster 212 cabinets; again, excellent sounding speakers. Fender cabinets had fittings for thumb screws on the top surface, and heads came with hardware fittings underneath the head cabinet--the two pieces could be mated for a "Piggy-back" configuration. (Fender held a patent on this device. Another patented feature were the "Tilt-Back Legs, allowing the amp and cabinet to be tilted back to roughly a 45-degree angle.)

Of course, Leo Fender, facing uncertainty over some health issues, sold out to CBS in 1965. Shortly after the sale, these "Black Face" amps were redesigned to become the "Silver Face" amps. I think it was about 1967, when the amp cabinets were redesigned as well, becoming much larger and taller. Rather than a horizontal 212 or 215, the speakers were vertically oriented, probably done more as a marketing move to compete with the newest British invention--the Marshall stack. These larger speakers are not as generally well-regarded due to their over-sized bulk--though as a rule, they do sound pretty good.

Over time, the Showman's petite 112 and 115 JBL enclosures were dropped from the catalog, and the Showman officially becomes the "Dual Showman" and is badged as such. The Bandmaster and Dual Showman soon receive larger head cabinets as well, to accomodate a reverb tank. Silver-faced or not, these are ferocious amps designed to play clean tones at loud volumes. The now Dual Showman Reverb is simply a renamed Twin Reverb.

It is not unusual to see these amps these days heavily modified from their original condition, with "black-facing", effects loops, channel switching, 1/2 power switches, and--installing the head into a combo cabinet. Power specs in these beasts range from 85 watts to 135, so I doubt a 2-8" cab could produce power for very long. It more likely has heavy-duty 10s--perhaps an ode to the great Music Man 210 HD-130s of the Seventies.

One of the best of these head conversions that I have ever seen was a 410 Dual Showman Reverb version, using EV-10s. It looked totally factory,...a 135 watt "Super Mega Colossal Reverb", if you will. The guy who owned it was a country Tele picker, and he wanted clean headroom and lots of it! I think it must have weighed in at nealy 150 lbs., too! And that amp has always made me wonder why Fender didn't make a 410, 100-watt version of the Super Reverb. The closest they came was the Quad Reverb (known for being Albert Collins' fave); and the Super Six Reverb. These amps are all based on the Twin, with different speaker configurations.

So, your find isn't a "factory" piece, but if the amp is up to snuff, it should be very clean, very loud....

...and GLORIOUS!

Bill
 
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Re: Fender Showman Reverb - experience?

There was no combo version...because the Showman Reverb and Bandmaster reverb have those crazy tall heads a lot of people over the years converted them into 2x8 combos but seeing that the Showman is 100 watts I wouldn't expect much from it as a 2x8 combo.

The Showman Reverb head is pretty much a Twin Reverb as a head...$400 is a gret price. I would get it, forget that it has 2 8" outsid of my bedroom and a get a 2x12 cab or convert it to a Twin but buying a Twin cab and speakers for it. If you really want to go all out get a 2x15 cab loaded with JBL's or Weber JBL clones! That is if you want a killer clean amp...they are far too loud to really do anythig else with.
 
Re: Fender Showman Reverb - experience?

The Fender Showman amp was essentially a head version of the Twin Reverb, without the combo's reverb. Factory cabinets came in a 112, 115 and 215 versions--the latter known as the "Dual" Showman. Speakers were a JBL D-120 or D-130s. (Later on, a 15" bass speaker--the D-140, was offered as an option so bassists could use the powerful Showman amp.)

In the mid-'60s, these cabinets were small, and fairly compact--and IMHO, they are some of the best speaker cabs ever built. Also note the small Bassman and Bandmaster 212 cabinets; again, excellent sounding speakers. Fender cabinets had fittings for thumb screws on the top surface, and heads came with hardware fittings underneath the head cabinet--the two pieces could be mated for a "Piggy-back" configuration. (Fender held a patent on this device. Another patented feature were the "Tilt-Back Legs, allowing the amp and cabinet to be tilted back to roughly a 45-degree angle.)

Of course, Leo Fender, facing uncertainty over some health issues, sold out to CBS in 1965. Shortly after the sale, these "Black Face" amps were redesigned to become the "Silver Face" amps. I think it was about 1967, when the amp cabinets were redesigned as well, becoming much larger and taller. Rather than a horizontal 212 or 215, the speakers were vertically oriented, probably done more as a marketing move to compete with the newest British invention--the Marshall stack. These larger speakers are not as generally well-regarded due to their over-sized bulk--though as a rule, they do sound pretty good.

Over time, the Showman's petite 112 and 115 JBL enclosures were dropped from the catalog, and the Showman officially becomes the "Dual Showman" and is badged as such. The Bandmaster and Dual Showman soon receive larger head cabinets as well, to accomodate a reverb tank. Silver-faced or not, these are ferocious amps designed to play clean tones at loud volumes. The now Dual Showman Reverb is simply a renamed Twin Reverb.

It is not unusual to see these amps these days heavily modified from their original condition, with "black-facing", effects loops, channel switching, 1/2 power switches, and--installing the head into a combo cabinet. Power specs in these beasts range from 85 watts to 135, so I doubt a 2-8" cab could produce power for very long. It more likely has heavy-duty 10s--perhaps an ode to the great Music Man 210 HD-130s of the Seventies.

One of the best of these head conversions that I have ever seen was a 410 Dual Showman Reverb version, using EV-10s. It looked totally factory,...a 135 watt "Super Mega Colossal Reverb", if you will. The guy who owned it was a country Tele picker, and he wanted clean headroom and lots of it! I think it must have weighed in at nealy 150 lbs., too! And that amp has always made me wonder why Fender didn't make a 410, 100-watt version of the Super Reverb. The closest they came was the Quad Reverb (known for being Albert Collins' fave); and the Super Six Reverb. These amps are all based on the Twin, with different speaker configurations.

So, your find isn't a "factory" piece, but if the amp is up to snuff, it should be very clean, very loud....

...and GLORIUS!

Bill


DAMN man, thats a lot of useful information! Thanks!!!

Still a little outta my reach...I got about 200 in the bank at the moment and no credit card ;). Gotta sell some stuff.
 
Re: Fender Showman Reverb - experience?

Krank,

Thanks for the compliment, and you are welcome.

Good Luck!

P.S. Grab it quick!

Bill
 
Re: Fender Showman Reverb - experience?

Just picked her up! Beautiful-sounding amp. Got a real stout pair of 8" speakers in there, I'm suprised by how much bass they put out. Still gonna be hookin it up to a cab most likely though.

Reverb and tremolo don't seem to work at the moment, I'm gonna try and troubleshoot that one. Plenty of places online seem to have schematics.

Looking at the transformers and caps, it looks to be either a '68 or a '69.
 
Re: Fender Showman Reverb - experience?

Congratulations !!

Is really 174 lb.'s
Good thing you are 20 years old.

At my age, moving my Super Reverb is a hernia waiting to happen.

Enjoy
 
Re: Fender Showman Reverb - experience?

Congratulations !!

Is really 174 lb.'s
Good thing you are 20 years old.

At my age, moving my Super Reverb is a hernia waiting to happen.

Enjoy

lol...nahhh...probably no more than 60 or so. It aint too bad.

certainly does have a mess of preamp tubes in it though. Found one phillips, one telefunken, a couple of sovteks, and a couple of em aren't marked. The amp does hum *a little*. Opened it up, one of the resistors looks like its a little fried, gonna replace that. I bought this thing as a fixer-upper anyways ;).
 
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