Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

[NenoCRO]

Hello guru people’s

After Epi Dot 335 with SD Slash i decide to make a new set up on my Strat.
For now i like to change bridge and midlle pickup.
On bridge i think about Seymour Duncan SSL-3 WH.
In middle....Seymour Duncan SSL-5 Custom Staggered Strat.
Its a single coil magnet’s...is it OK old electronic for new set up?
250 kohm is it good for new pickup.
If you have some better solution .....pls.....write.
All the best
From Croatia.
NenoCRO

 

[Mincer]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

You can keep 250k pots in there- those pickups were designed with 250k pots in mind...however, if you find the pickups too dark (they might be in some guitars), bump the pots up to 500k. That will be a pretty hot Strat, and while it won't get those super vintage Strat tones, it will be a rock machine.

 

[gregory]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Keep the volume and middle tone control at 250k. Change the outside tone control to 500k.

I'm assuming the middle tone control is active when the neck pickup is on, the outside tone control is active with the middle pickup is on, both tones are active when the neck and middle pickups are combined and no tone control is active when the bridge pickup is on by itself.

This should work just fine with an SSL-3/SSL-5/vintage neck setup.

 

[NenoCRO]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Thanks a lot Mincer and Gregory.
I will change bridge pickup with SSL3, middle pickup with SSL5 and for now old neck pickup stay on guitar.
Gregory you told that is better if i change outside poti with 500 kohma. Is it for bright tone or what?

 

[gregory]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Brighter because the pickup will be darker due to the hotter wind. You can always turn the tone control down so that it's the same value as a 250k pot, but you can't turn a 250k pot up to 500k. I'm also not a fan of the increased load when two tone pots are active, which the higher value tone pot helps mitigate. If you often find yourself changing the tone control when switching between neck and neck + middle (or between other pickup combinations) you might consider what you can do to fix that. A 5-way Super Switch can prevent the double tone control situation, for example, or change loading on a per-position basis.

FWIW, I prefer the SSL-6 over the 5 (and I know Mincer does too), but I have no idea about the radius of your fingerboard or if you use a wound G string.

 

[NenoCRO]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Thanks Gregory
Is it a simple 500 kohma poti...https://www.thomann.de/intl/fender_poti_500.htm
and its on third position (first is volumen-250kohma,second is tone control-250 kohma and on third positiom i must put new one 500 kohm!. Is it corect?
Maybe you know some wiring diagram that would help me. Or i just have to replace poti.
Sorry i dont have experience with change poti.
Thanks a lot

 

[NenoCRO]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Gregory , i forgot. You wrote that SSL6 is good for neck position.
What you think if i not a change old neck pickup ....is it work OK with new combination.
Or its a better to put new one (SSL6) on neck position?
Thanks

 

[gregory]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

I had an SSL-6T in the neck position in one of my guitars for a very long time and have mentioned it in other discussions. You said you wanted to keep your current neck pickup, and if you like it I see no reason to suggest you do anything different. I'm happy to suggest alternatives (for all three pickups), however.

As for a wiring diagram:
https://www.seymourduncan.com/wirin...middle-s,bridge-s,1-volume,2-tone,5-way-blade

You'll likely have to reverse the leads of the stock Fender neck pickup so that it remains in phase.

 

[NenoCRO]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Gregory, thanks a lot.

 

[gregory]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

You're quite welcome.

If you need help with hum cancellation in the 2 and 4 positions, let us know; but do so before you buy the pickups.

 

[NenoCRO]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Yes i like to know about hum cancelation on 2 and 4 postion and i wait for your answer.

 

[gregory]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Do you currently have hum cancellation in positions 2 and 4?

Would you also be interested in noiseless pickups?

 

[NenoCRO]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Yes, i have hum cancelation on 2 and 4 position and im interest for noiseless pick up

 

[gregory]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

From Seymour Duncan:
Bridge: STK-S9B
Middle: STK-S6
Neck: STK-S7

From DiMarzio:
Bridge: Injector Bridge
Middle: Injector Neck
Neck: Area 61

DiMarzio has many many many more options.

 

[Chickenwings]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Quick experiment that saves money:
Buy a s sngle ssl5 custom for strat (you want one for the middle anyway).
Put it in the bridge and wire the guitar so the bridge pickup has no tone control, the same as a 50s strat.
Move your old bridge Pickup to the middle, and your old middle to the neck.
Keep all your original pots and wiring.
This will give you three things:
A thicker, hotter bridge sound that many players love.
Enough treble clarity.
Hum cancelling in 2 and 4.

Plus...if you still want more output, you still have the option of going with your original plan, although you may just find that the ssl5 alone gives you a killer tone.

 

[NenoCRO]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Nice.
I find a https://www.thomann.de/intl/seymour_duncan_ssl5_rwrp_custom_staggered.htm
SSL5 with RWRP on middle position.
I think that is OK combination.

 

[gregory]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Not a bad idea, just make sure the SSL-5 (or -6) is RW/RP.

If the SSL-3 is still wanted then it would need to be standard polarity, and the the old neck pickup would need go back in.

However, if you already know you want a single in the bridge position that sounds like an SSL-3, the SSL-5 isn't going to cut it. But if you want that much heat, chances are you'll also want to go noiseless; and with that much heat going noiseless isn't going to compromise the tone (Quarter Pound being the exception).

At that point it would have been better to have chosen noiseless in the first place.

 

[NenoCRO]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Well
On the bridge:
https://www.thomann.de/intl/seymourduncan_sssl3.htm
On the middle:
https://www.thomann.de/intl/seymour_duncan_ssl5_rwrp_custom_staggered.htm
On the neck:
https://www.thomann.de/intl/seymour_duncan_ssl6wh.htm
I think that is good combination.

 

[gregory]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

There is a huge difference between an SSL-6 in the neck and a standard vintage single coil, and if you play with gain the hum can get quite irritating.

Are you really sure you know what you want?

 

[NenoCRO]

Re: Fender Stratocaster American Standard from 73

Gregory, pls ....what is your sugestion.
DiMarzzio i dont like.Budget with SSL pickup is Ok for me.
You think that SSL 6 is not good combination for this set up.
What is better solution for me?