Fender style neck: One piece vs/ two piece
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SabbathFan0220
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Re: Fender style neck: One piece vs/ two piece
Well if by slab-neck you mean with a rosewood fretboard, then definitely. The one piece necks are all maple, which is a much brighter wood than rosewood.
Well if by slab-neck you mean with a rosewood fretboard, then definitely. The one piece necks are all maple, which is a much brighter wood than rosewood.
JohnnyGuitar
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Fender were necks with a separate fingerboard, be it rosewood or maple, somewhere back in the late sixties.
Don't know what it does to the tone in theory, but I get the feeling that in practice most of us won't notice a big difference...
Fender were necks with a separate fingerboard, be it rosewood or maple, somewhere back in the late sixties.
Don't know what it does to the tone in theory, but I get the feeling that in practice most of us won't notice a big difference...
ImmortalSix
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I have always wanted to try a maple-slab-board Strat neck.
The easy way to tell if a neck has a slab board is the absence of a skunk stripe on the back of the neck.
On a rosewood boarded neck, you can tell because of the, uh, rosewood board. :laughing:
Clarification: there is no skunk stripe on slab board necks because the luthier can insert the truss rod before the fretboard is glued down. On a one piece, the luthier must cut a channel to install the truss rod, and, of course, they do this on the back of the neck, then replace the lost material from the route with a "skunk stripe" of darker wood.
I have had both a rosewood slab boarded maple neck, and a one piece all maple (with skunk stripe) neck on my Strat and liked the one piece all-maple better.
It was always fuller, more energetic, despite being a tad thinner / less full bodied than my rosewood slab neck.
I have always wanted to try a maple-slab-board Strat neck.
The easy way to tell if a neck has a slab board is the absence of a skunk stripe on the back of the neck.
On a rosewood boarded neck, you can tell because of the, uh, rosewood board. :laughing:
Clarification: there is no skunk stripe on slab board necks because the luthier can insert the truss rod before the fretboard is glued down. On a one piece, the luthier must cut a channel to install the truss rod, and, of course, they do this on the back of the neck, then replace the lost material from the route with a "skunk stripe" of darker wood.
I have had both a rosewood slab boarded maple neck, and a one piece all maple (with skunk stripe) neck on my Strat and liked the one piece all-maple better.
It was always fuller, more energetic, despite being a tad thinner / less full bodied than my rosewood slab neck.
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the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Fender style neck: One piece vs/ two piece
I think he's asking about a one piece maple neck or a two piece maple neck...one 50's style and one late 60's style but not the rosewood fingerboard deal.
I have heard that a 2 piece neck it a little brighter than a one piece neck but the truth is you;d have to build 2 necks as close to each other as possible, AND use them on the same guitar to really tell.
This rumor started a while back and a lot of new country players have said that they prefer late 60's Tele's to 50's Tele's because the 2 piece neck makes them brighter...
BUT...a 50's Tele and a late 60's Tele are worlds apart in far more ways than just the neck construction...
-body wood
-neck construction
-neck size
-pickups
-wiring set up
-bridge saddles
All these things make up the difference we hear between say a 1952 and a 1968 Telecaster.
I think he's asking about a one piece maple neck or a two piece maple neck...one 50's style and one late 60's style but not the rosewood fingerboard deal.
I have heard that a 2 piece neck it a little brighter than a one piece neck but the truth is you;d have to build 2 necks as close to each other as possible, AND use them on the same guitar to really tell.
This rumor started a while back and a lot of new country players have said that they prefer late 60's Tele's to 50's Tele's because the 2 piece neck makes them brighter...
BUT...a 50's Tele and a late 60's Tele are worlds apart in far more ways than just the neck construction...
-body wood
-neck construction
-neck size
-pickups
-wiring set up
-bridge saddles
All these things make up the difference we hear between say a 1952 and a 1968 Telecaster.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Fender style neck: One piece vs/ two piece
Not true...if there is a difference, it's the other way around.
Not true...if there is a difference, it's the other way around.
mrfjones
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I would tend to agree but this is all speculation, as we can't really try this out and it would depend on the maple the necks are made from. maple is pretty consistent for board to board much more so than other woods now but it can still vary a great deal in terms of tone.
I would tend to agree but this is all speculation, as we can't really try this out and it would depend on the maple the necks are made from. maple is pretty consistent for board to board much more so than other woods now but it can still vary a great deal in terms of tone.
Stef
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That's what I heard and red and it sounds right to me. Did you have a chance to play a maplecap neck or you intuitively know it's the other way around?
I didn't unfortunately..but I'm shure the glue from a cap so close to the fretboard dampens the high end frequencies
That's what I heard and red and it sounds right to me. Did you have a chance to play a maplecap neck or you intuitively know it's the other way around?
I didn't unfortunately..but I'm shure the glue from a cap so close to the fretboard dampens the high end frequencies
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Desert
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Re: Fender style neck: One piece vs/ two piece
I started this thread because this builder I spoke to, http://www.stonetreeguitars.com/ , told me that he tended to use the 2-piece over the one-piece, because of the warmer sound. I've heard it elsewhere, too, though.
He also said that, on two identically constructed necks, a rosewood board was brighter than a maple one...in other words, a M/R is brighter than a M/M (both being two piece) I was REALLY surprised at that statement and told him so, and he explained that he was just as surprised, but it's always seemed to be the case since he began building.
He's done a few guitars for Joe Bonamassa as well as others.
I started this thread because this builder I spoke to, http://www.stonetreeguitars.com/ , told me that he tended to use the 2-piece over the one-piece, because of the warmer sound. I've heard it elsewhere, too, though.
He also said that, on two identically constructed necks, a rosewood board was brighter than a maple one...in other words, a M/R is brighter than a M/M (both being two piece) I was REALLY surprised at that statement and told him so, and he explained that he was just as surprised, but it's always seemed to be the case since he began building.
He's done a few guitars for Joe Bonamassa as well as others.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Fender style neck: One piece vs/ two piece
Like I said above and Scott said as well it's REALLY hard to put this to a real test...
I have never done any testing I am basing my info on someone I trust...Tommy at USACG told me that to his ears a maple cap board neck is a tad snappier/toppier than a one piece maple neck of the same size and shape...
Now, Tommy has built thousands of necks over the years so I trust him on the subject but even he said it's a small difference...
Like I said above and Scott said as well it's REALLY hard to put this to a real test...
I have never done any testing I am basing my info on someone I trust...Tommy at USACG told me that to his ears a maple cap board neck is a tad snappier/toppier than a one piece maple neck of the same size and shape...
Now, Tommy has built thousands of necks over the years so I trust him on the subject but even he said it's a small difference...
Sporky McGuffin
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To be honest I don't think anyone actually knows what anything sounds like guitar-wise. It's 60% speculation, 30% snake-oil and 10% desperately wanting to have some sort of opinion.
To be honest I don't think anyone actually knows what anything sounds like guitar-wise. It's 60% speculation, 30% snake-oil and 10% desperately wanting to have some sort of opinion.
Desert
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Re: Fender style neck: One piece vs/ two piece
Thank you, I agree, he would know.
Thank you, I agree, he would know.
ACH91332
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There is probably a difference which is measurable somehow but is more than likely inaudible to the ear. Glue darkens things so I can get that but I don't know. It's like comparing a 3 piece, 2 piece, or 1 piece body. There's really not a ton of difference. It just comes down to what you want it to look like or how much money you have in your wallet. I would get a 1 piece if it was all maple just for cosmetic purposes. I wouldn't care because its all maple anyways and I would want it to look neat. Like I said there is probably a difference but too small to really notice which is why I'd get a one piece all maple neck no matter what.
There is probably a difference which is measurable somehow but is more than likely inaudible to the ear. Glue darkens things so I can get that but I don't know. It's like comparing a 3 piece, 2 piece, or 1 piece body. There's really not a ton of difference. It just comes down to what you want it to look like or how much money you have in your wallet. I would get a 1 piece if it was all maple just for cosmetic purposes. I wouldn't care because its all maple anyways and I would want it to look neat. Like I said there is probably a difference but too small to really notice which is why I'd get a one piece all maple neck no matter what.
