Fender's New Upgraded Highway one guitars!!

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Just for the record, the Highway 1's have a 4-bolt neck, not 3, unless they changed them for this year but the originals used 4-bolts and it doesn't say anywhere in the specs for the new ones that they are 3-bolt, and Fender usually says so when a guitar has 3 because it's not the "norm" anymore.
 
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Mr. B said:
Personally I would rather have a "cheap" finish that stays on than a laquer finish that is half gone in a couple of months. Its no coincidence that I saw so many of these with chips while still on the sell rack. These models were notorious for the paint chiping off, just read the reviews on harmony central. I have never really heard anyone that seriously knows guitars say that the three bolt neck CBS introduced to save 2cents was anything except a very bad design flaw. It couldn't help the wood/wood connection and it cannot be as stable as a four bolt. These guitars have several good things going for them: American alder bodies, american necks with 22 frets, I like the extra mass of the 70's peghead, and the alnico 3 pickups sound like an improvement. I won't say that there arent a few things about the HWY 1's that are not ideal though, thats why we will still pay much more for an american strat. All of those "special" appointments that fender has "added" are just marketing gimmicks to draw your attention away from the fact that a 300$ less guitar..... is 300$ less guitar. (Satin finish = we did not take time to polish the finish. Vintage neck pocket = we saved two cents on a screw). All these things are ok since they save us money (Gibson is doing it too) and we still end up with a very playable guitar which is what really matters. SRV's number 1 didn't have a finish left on it and we would all give our left nut to own that one. :)


Its not a 3 bolt neck on the H1's and I think a significant number of people find a thinner finish to be advantagous
 
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Robbiedbee said:
It's a shame I'm one of those guys who likes to keep it all in top condition. I hate to see dings, scatches, smudges, fingerprints and all. It can't really afford the USA models either. Highway 1s did seem ideal at one point. It's down to the individual axe I guess. I'm content with my MIM for now to be honest.
Well, one very nice thing about the nitro on the new H1s is that it's much easier to fix dings than it is with poly. Nitro repairs can easily be feathered so you'd never know there was a ding while poly doesn't blend as nicely when new finish is applied.

Last week I let my favorite "pusher" know that I wanted a call when he gets the new H1 Teles in stock. :usa1:
 
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I thought it sounded kinda wierd that fender would go back to the old 3 bolt neck. Beandip was saying that's what it meant when the fender catalog said it had a "vintage neck joint". So if it does not refer to a 3 bolt joint, then what does "vintage neck joint" mean ??? I can't think of anything else except maybe the micro-tilt system ???? Any guesses??

I know that thin nitrocellulose finishes are said to let the natural sound of the wood show through, and I notice that the Eric Johnson (who is a tone monster) model is also advertised with a "thin" finish as well. However, I'll just bet that on that 1600$ EJ model the finish won't chip off in the first three months....
 
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I took a look at these guitars as well and though that the whole deal looked pretty good.
There is one thing tho. i know some of you may think that i am paranoid, but i just have lost my trust in these big name companies anymore.
What i am saying is i dont trust them to make a good instrument.

Maybe it is pretty good for the price that it is offered at but i would still rather buy from a small builder.

I think i would still rather get a USACG with all the stuff right from the begining. i would pay probably about 300$ more but i think in the end it would be totally worth it.

I mean upgrades to this strat would probably be the bridge and pickups which would go for and extra 300$ anyway so why not do it right from the begining?
Plus i assume that the quality i would get from USACG would be quite a bit better than the fender.

Just my two cents.
 
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Mr. B said:
I thought it sounded kinda wierd that fender would go back to the old 3 bolt neck. Beandip was saying that's what it meant when the fender catalog said it had a "vintage neck joint". So if it does not refer to a 3 bolt joint, then what does "vintage neck joint" mean ??? I can't think of anything else except maybe the micro-tilt system ???? Any guesses??
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I know nothing about the new ones, but the older ones, they did have one model with a 3 bolt neck joint.
 
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beandip said:
I know nothing about the new ones, but the older ones, they did have one model with a 3 bolt neck joint.


I don't think so
 
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beandip said:
I know nothing about the new ones, but the older ones, they did have one model with a 3 bolt neck joint.
You're thinking of the 70's RI Strat. That has the 3-bolt neck. The Highway 1's have always been 4-bolt.
 
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The problem with the 3-bolt necks was not the 3-bolt neck, it was the poorly routed neck pockets that were prevalent in the 70's strats.
 
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I own both a HWY1 Tele and a Strat. Both have enjoyed Pup upgrades (Kinman and Duncans respectively) Both are absolutely killer. The guitar plays loud and sweet unplugged. I don't wrap my guitars in cotton wool, but i certainly take good care of them. I have no finish chippings and such. This is abuse, big accident related I'm sure. The necks on these things for me is a true deal. Nice big frets, nicely finished. Same neck as the USA proper.

If you drop, toss, grind, rub, drag, knock, push, crush etc your guitar, it will suffer. Maybe a little more if it's a lower-labour finish.

With friction, the satin rubs up to a gloss eventually. But if you're slightly lame, you might exagerate the wear with a little sanding.

Nobody can convince me that all of that finish wear on SRV and Rory Gallager's strats were real honest playing related wear. I mean really! Unless you wear chain-mail while playing 3 gigs a night (after a vat of burbon) in a unguarded prison bar.
 
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More-Gear-Than-Skill said:
Nobody can convince me that all of that finish wear on SRV and Rory Gallager's strats were real honest playing related wear. I mean really! Unless you wear chain-mail while playing 3 gigs a night (after a vat of burbon) in a unguarded prison bar.
Exactly. Some of it is playing wear, like around the horns and the arm contour, maybe above the top of the pickguard from heavy pick hand swinging. But, it seems lots forgot about the times SRV took his Strat off his shoulders and would literally slide it across the floor of the stage, string side down, just it hear it make noise. Then he'd take it string side up, grab the trem arm and bounce the thing around for a while. That guitar to a massive beating for years. No wonder it looks the way it does.
 
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I don't see anything to indicate Fender uses a 3-bolt on anything other than 70's reissues. Stop starting stupid rumours!
 
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I think the 3 bolt rumors stem from the fact that in Fender catalogs from the past few years, it advertises the HWY 1's as having a "vintage neck joint". I guess many readers minds immediately flash back to the old 3 screw necks when they hear that. I still don't know, nor have I found anyone who can explain, what exactly Fender means by that statement.

I wonder why fender has decided to add the Jumbo frets instead of the Medium Jumbo they are known for recently? I have always though the medium jumbo's were just right. I wouldn't really want my strat to feel like an Ibanez.
 
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Mr. B said:
I think the 3 bolt rumors stem from the fact that in Fender catalogs from the past few years, it advertises the HWY 1's as having a "vintage neck joint". I guess many readers minds immediately flash back to the old 3 screw necks when they hear that. I still don't know, nor have I found anyone who can explain, what exactly Fender means by that statement.

It probably means no tilt adjustment like on the American Standard / Deluxe models.

The first Strats and Teles all had 4 bolt neck joints during what most would consider to be Fender's "vintage" period. It wasn't until the CBS era that they switched to 3 bolt.
 
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why did my local shop have to stop carrying fenders?!?!?!? aaarrrgghhh!!!

i would have definitely traded my bass in on one of the new ones!!!
 
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These things *could* actually get me back into a Fender. Existing HWY1s kill nearly everything else but the high end stuff Fender makes for resonance/tone as it is, the jumbo frets will help big time on the 9.5" radius, and I prefer the larger headstock (I do think the older colors are better tho..those reds/blues and greens they had were gorgeous)

I cannot get into the Flash page or whatever though to work..how is the new bridge different? Is it a vintage style or 2 point?

Too bad they don't offer a H-H version (I know they are routed for them though) and a flatter 12" or so radius. Heck..why we are at it...how about a Floyd version.
 
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This is killer. My "original" Highway One just got more valuable. :)

Cause lets face it, we all know that the new version of anything instrument related isn't as cool as the older ones. :)
 
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