Ferris Wheel demo

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:eek: :eek: :yourock:

Yikes..great song/playing/tone!! Sounds VERY good to me.


Which midi footpedal are you using? I'd like to control my g-major and amp via one midi pedal and thinking of gettin' a Behringer FCB1010.



btw: Could you arrange that the choice of the smiles, when typing a reply (the smilies box on the right), is more "positive"?
 
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Very cool, Robert. I would take "a little out of tune, that I missed a few notes, that there are edit pops, there are missing transitions and that it has no ending." any day of the week.

It's very much a guitar player's song, I think. Tasty chops, a few unconventional melodies (always a plus), and good tone. I dig.
 
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Thanks guys.

I use the Rocktron MidiMate with an EB volume pedal as an expression pedal.

That was recorded through a Pod 2.0 on the rectified setting on a Les Paul with a CC in it. The final version will be the same guitar and a Custom.
 
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Very cool stuff.I liked the tones alot.The harmonies are awesome!:D
I would turn the bass a tad down but that's just me!
 
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Killer Track!! :D I love how the 1st half has a Southern flavor, Then it sails across the sea to Uli-Land. I agree with daemon barbeque. The bass is booming. Other than that,You just knocked one outta the park with those harmonies.:notworthy
 
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Thanks again guys.

I know the bass is out there a bit and I could have EQed it better but all those tracks are going into the garbage. This was just my working copy.

I wrote that piece over the course of maybe two weeks. I had the head and break with a different 2nd section (open 6ths pull offs) and it just sat for a week as I tried to figure what what to do with it. The uli-land (where is that?) section I wrote ove the course of four days and the damn thing would wake me up at 430am and call me to record. I'd record a small piece of it and then it would bounce around on my head all day and I'd drop a little more after work and then some more in the evening. I'm not exactly sure where it came from but it was seriously a lot of fun to write.

The problem is though, that once I was done writing it I didn't know how to play it. I literally had to go back and learn how to play both guitar parts end to end and I even tabbed out the 2nd guitar part for another guitar playing friend of mine that I wrote the song for in the first place.

MikeS was right, it is a guitar players song. I have a friend named Carl that is a killer player and he is also a huge satch/via/timmons instrumental fan and we decided to work on some things together. I set out to write a song that would be challenging for the both of us with as many different techniques thrown in as possible.

This is the mess that I came up with. Just as I had my part down cold and worked up the hand strength to play what is essentially a 4 minute solo I sliced my left index finger with a utility knife cutting down some drywall at work. Needless to say, it'll take a couple extra days to keep my finger from squirting juice during the numerous 1st finger bends that are in the damn thing but I'm almost there. The finger is still a little tender but its closing up nicely.

The cool thing about this song is that there are no actual chords played. Even the first 7 bars where there are four notes played are actually open 6th intervals played by both guitars to outliine a chord. All the rest of the harmonic structure is implied.

Again, I don't know where it came from but it's a lot of fun to play and that was the whole point. Now I have to re-do the drums so that it compliments some of the rhythmic stuff implied in the guitar and bass lines and I have to re-do the bass line to sinc up with the guitar work a little better.

Lots of work left to do to get it ready for June.
 
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"The cool thing about this song is that there are no actual chords played. Even the first 7 bars where there are four notes played are actually open 6th intervals played by both guitars to outliine a chord. All the rest of the harmonic structure is implied."

Man, I can't even wrap my lil brain around laying chords down that way...lol This track is an excercise in thinkin, but still rocks very nicely. The rhythm underneith keeps it grooving, which really gives the non geetar folks, something to tap their toes to ( something a lot of players forget about..). Can't wait to hear the finished version. That had to take a long time to track all those little pieces. Did I hear a backward section??

Really good stuff man. Been too long since I heard one of your tracks!
 
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Killer! Your outlining the chords definitely works, so much more attention/definition is focused into your sweet harmonies. Out-of-the-box playing like this is so refreshing!

When you started writing it, did you hear it in your head? Or was it pieced together from improvising?
 
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Thanks Biu:

I started writing this one in maybe mid March or so. The head and bridge dropped in a day or two and I had something different in mind for the first break over the head chords but it was some sort of chord thing with a traditional solo but I couldn't figure out exactly what to put there so I left whatever space it took filled and decided to move on.

I was sort of in the same space for the remainder of the song as well. I knew it was going to be an instrumental but since I don't normally write them I didn't really have a framework for what I wanted to do. The bass line had a little thing in it somewhere in my noodling that turned the key to G and I ended up making that change and dropped the bass for the next 4 bars. The guitar lines started just falling out of me at that point. I wrote the whole center section (bars 33 - 133) over the course of maybe four days. I would drop the bass line in 4 bar chunks and the next four bars of guitar work would show up. It was onre of those songs that would rattle around in my head and then all of a sudden the next section would just show up. I did very little playing until I knew where I wanted it to go and then just lay it down. Most of the thinking was just to find the starting points for the second guitar and a little fishing to get in and out of some of the more outside harmonies smoothly.

So it wasn't really pieced together old ideas as much as it was just how it occured. I did pay attention to some of the techniques used because I wanted to get as many different "things" into it as possible and I also expanded some old ideas, making them more extensive and difficult.

If you listen to the solo in Know One Knows, you'll hear that I used the same open 6ths pull off thing that I do but its expanded here and there are other examples as well.

The edit screen shot above shows most of the different ideas I put together to make this one. I spent two weeks or so thinking about it and writing.

Thanks for asking!

Robert
 
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I really dig the kind of atonal but harmonized licks you threw in - much more interesting than what I'd normally expect to hear over this kind of track.
 
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I was at Roberts house about a month ago and he played Ferris Wheel for me. I'll tell ya, as we were listening to it Robert was sitting there grinning from ear to ear like the Cheshire cat! I could tell he was really proud of this one and he had every right to be, as he put a lot of work into it. It was a fun moment.

I'm taking some lessons from Robert when time allows and it's definatley opening up a few doors for me. I went to his house on a Saturday...poor guy, worked all week and also on that Saturday and when I got there he looked like he was ready for a nap. But he took the time to help me, Mr. Led Fingers! He did'nt have to but he did.

Truly appreciated, Robert.
 
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Thanks Socrates!

What Mike doesn't let on is that he is actually an accomplished guitar player with a killer ear and he has a great sense for structure and musicality. If he wasn't so darn humble he could really be a killer player.

Thanks for stopping by Mike, it was a pleasure. I wasn't actually tired, just in the mood for 2 bowls of Capt'n Crunch!

Thanks Bro!
 
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Robert S. said:
Thanks Socrates!

What Mike doesn't let on is that he is actually an accomplished guitar player with a killer ear and he has a great sense for structure and musicality. If he wasn't so darn humble he could really be a killer player.

Thanks for stopping by Mike, it was a pleasure. I wasn't actually tired, just in the mood for 2 bowls of Capt'n Crunch!

Thanks Bro!
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Thank YOU for the kind words, Robert. I'm not use to that kind of talk!
 
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