Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

[LLL]

EDITED:

Here's a quick change doing the AMS setting on Soundtoy's Microshift plugin.

Also tweaked EQ ever so slightly and added a touch of EMT140 plate reverb.

BIAS Rhoads EQ Reaper Test 2 (AMS)

Next I'll do triple tracking with the above settings.

 

[Phantasmagoria]

Re: Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

Sounds spot on to me :bigthumb:

 

[Leon Of Late]

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The tone sounds very spot on. When I think of the original, it sounds a tad more open for lack of a better word, like there was a subtle reverb or delay on or added that gave it depth. I'm no recording expert, just using my untrained 80's era ears. I do love the tone and playing though.

 

[LLL]

Re: Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

Thanks - I've added a new clip which is the full Crazy Train tune with Randy on the left and me on the right.

 

[El Dunco]

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BIAS's tone matching capabilities are really something. I've been meaning to try it out.

 

[LLL]

Re: Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

BIAS's tone matching capabilities are really something. I've been meaning to try it out.

I didn't use the tone matching (not a big fan of that part), just my ears and research.

Emulated everything in his signal chain except for his (EDIT: Altec) speakers (don't have any iRs for those).

I use BIAS for the amp and occasionally an FX pedal, but 9 times out of 10 I don't use BIAS's speakers (use my own iRs) and I add further VSTs (Waves, etc) to build the tone.


After I do my Boston tone w/ BIAS vid, I'll do a vid for Randy's using the techniques I did here.

 

[El Dunco]

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I didn't use the tone matching (not a big fan of that part), just my ears and research.

Emulated everything in his signal chain except for his Fane speakers (don't have any iRs for those).

I use BIAS for the amp and occasionally an FX pedal, but 9 times out of 10 I don't use BIAS's speakers (use my own iRs) and I add further VSTs (Waves, etc) to build the tone.


After I do my Boston tone w/ BIAS vid, I'll do a vid for Randy's using the techniques I did here.

Impressive! Good job

 

[Leon Of Late]

Re: Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

I think it's time to send a demo CD to Ozzy and see if he needs a new guitarist. Sounds great.

 

[dystrust]

Re: Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

I didn't use the tone matching (not a big fan of that part), just my ears and research.

Emulated everything in his signal chain except for his Fane speakers (don't have any iRs for those).

I use BIAS for the amp and occasionally an FX pedal, but 9 times out of 10 I don't use BIAS's speakers (use my own iRs) and I add further VSTs (Waves, etc) to build the tone.


After I do my Boston tone w/ BIAS vid, I'll do a vid for Randy's using the techniques I did here.

I always thought that Randy used Altec 417s. Do you have any IRs for those?

 

[JimmyO]

Re: Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

Hell Yeah

 

[LLL]

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I always thought that Randy used Altec 417s. Do you have any IRs for those?

Yeah that was a mis-type; I meant Altec 417-8Hs. No, don't have any, but according to my research (someone out there),
that full-range type speaker is supposed to be similar to JBL D120F (which I do have and which I used).

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

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Very cool ... I would say 'old school', but done in a very new school way lol.

 

[Kamanda~SD]

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Sounds certainly in the spirit, but not spot on. Not buzzy or shrill enough haha

 

[dystrust]

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Yeah that was a mis-type; I meant Altec 417-8Hs. No, don't have any, but according to my research (someone out there),
that full-range type speaker is supposed to be similar to JBL D120F (which I do have and which I used).

I've heard that as well. I've never actually heard an Altec 417 in person, but the construction is similar enough to a JBL D120F.

 

[LLL]

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Sounds certainly in the spirit, but not spot on. Not buzzy or shrill enough haha

Exactly. The final touch is getting that "sparkle-shrill-buzz" in there which is undoubtedly provided by the Altecs, but that may be impossible.

...but that never stopped me! hahahahahahaha (crazy train laugh)

 

[LLL]

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I've heard that as well. I've never actually heard an Altec 417 in person, but the construction is similar enough to a JBL D120F.

 

[DankStar]

Re: Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

well done! could use a tad more air/top end - maybe a vintagey EQ plugin?

Can you locate an impulse for those weird speakers maybe?

 

[LLL]

Re: Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

well done! could use a tad more air/top end - maybe a vintagey EQ plugin?

Can you locate an impulse for those weird speakers maybe?

Ownhammer has some, but I'm gonna study the freq response and tailor from there.

 

[LLL]

Re: Figured Out Randy Rhoads Tone

Here's a new one:

BIAS Rhoads EQ Reaper Test

Found out the chorus used on the album (aside from the double and sometimes triple [!] tracking) was the AMS DMX 15-80.

Emulated this with Soundtoys Microshift VST.

 

[kramersteen]

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Sounds great