Filling my 4x12 cab

[uOpt]

I have an empty pre-MFD JCM800 4x12 that I want to fill with something G12-65 alike. (The only speakers I have are one working and one broken EV-12L but those probably aren't use for this).

I got a used G12-65. I know I will get one WGS ET-65 and an Emminence Tonespotter. So that makes 3.

What do I do with the 4th slot?
- There is the Weber 1265 but I heard a lot of bad things about it and it's more expensive.
- Should I just use a EV in the 4th slot until I decide what I go with in the end? - Or screw experimentation and get 3x ET-65?
- Or try a G12H?

 

[King IzzO)))]

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What's wrong with your 2nd 12L?

People seem to like the ET65's, and the price is right.

Looks like I'm gonna have 8 (yes, eight) original G12-65's soon, but 3 have rips in the cones. Great speakers.

 

[mwalluk]

Re: Filling my 4x12 cab

You should keep it empty and fill it up with beer. Think about it, you would never ever have to pay for beer at a show again. It'll be right up there with you the whole time.

 

[AudioWonderland]

Re: Filling my 4x12 cab

I have an empty pre-MFD JCM800 4x12 that I want to fill with something G12-65 alike. (The only speakers I have are one working and one broken EV-12L but those probably aren't use for this).

I got a used G12-65. I know I will get one WGS ET-65 and an Emminence Tonespotter. So that makes 3.

What do I do with the 4th slot?
- There is the Weber 1265 but I heard a lot of bad things about it and it's more expensive.
- Should I just use a EV in the 4th slot until I decide what I go with in the end? - Or screw experimentation and get 3x ET-65?
- Or try a G12H?

You have a G12-65 and are adding to clones of that speaker more or less. I would imaging staying with that formula makes the most sense

 

[uOpt]

Re: Filling my 4x12 cab

You should keep it empty and fill it up with beer. Think about it, you would never ever have to pay for beer at a show again. It'll be right up there with you the whole time.

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It was but now it's empty again.

What's wrong with your 2nd 12L?

No reading. Needs a recone. I could consider reconing it and running it in there but 2x EV12L will be LOUD.

People seem to like the ET65's, and the price is right.

Looks like I'm gonna have 8 (yes, eight) original G12-65's soon, but 3 have rips in the cones. Great speakers.

Hmmmm, want

You have a G12-65 and are adding to clones of that speaker more or less. I would imaging staying with that formula makes the most sense

The idea is to find out what works. If the clones all suck I get rid of them and pony up for the real thing. If one of the clones does really well I'll fill the cabinet with that one.

 

[mwalluk]

Re: Filling my 4x12 cab

Seriously tho, I'm a fan of the EVM 12L's, they work for just about any style I played.

 

[uOpt]

Re: Filling my 4x12 cab

Seriously tho, I'm a fan of the EVM 12L's, they work for just about any style I played.

I suppose I could recone the broken 12L.

Then I can run the EVs in the lower deck and the slant section is G12-65ed for now.

 

[AudioWonderland]

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It was but now it's empty again.

No reading. Needs a recone. I could consider reconing it and running it in there but 2x EV12L will be LOUD.



Hmmmm, want



The idea is to find out what works. If the clones all suck I get rid of them and pony up for the real thing. If one of the clones does really well I'll fill the cabinet with that one.

Not much help to you but I absolutely love the Tonespotter in its own right in my ISO cab. Lots of greenback character with the low end of a g12h30 and 75w power handling which is essential for a 1x12 cab. I don't know how closely it replicates the 12-65 though.

 

[King IzzO)))]

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I suppose I could recone the broken 12L.

Then I can run the EVs in the lower deck and the slant section is G12-65ed for now.

I would do this, the quieter G12's up top would keep it from blowing your face off like the EV's would too. That EV isn't doing you any good in it's current condition either.


I'm probably getting the best sounding Butcher I've heard and 2 way huge '70's Kustom vented back 4x12's with all original G12's from my guitarist in trade for my way rare Tama artwood snare. I haven't decided if I'm gonna do it yet, I didn't realize that 3 speakers had rips in them, so I still gotta check it out. Hopefully they're real minor and I can fix them pretty easy.

I'm wondering if it's a bad idea to play real loud on 30 year old speaker cones in vented cabs.

 

[uOpt]

Re: Filling my 4x12 cab

I'm wondering if it's a bad idea to play real loud on 30 year old speaker cones in vented cabs.

I have never been quite convinced that open or vented cabs are actually worse than closed ones, as long as you stay in the power envelope of course (if the coil melts down nothing matters).

The stress on the cone should be equal or even higher in the closed cab since it works against the air pressure or underpressure in the cab. That's gonna have quite a bit of extra force on the cone.

 

[uOpt]

Re: Filling my 4x12 cab

Looks like the tonespotter isn't available in 16 ohm. Meh. I think I'm gonna get two wgs and an EV recone kit.

 

[King IzzO)))]

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The concern is too much movement in an open back because the lack of back pressure, at least that's the impression I got. Maybe I'm wrong.

 

[King IzzO)))]

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DO IT!

 

[uOpt]

Re: Filling my 4x12 cab

The concern is too much movement in an open back because the lack of back pressure, at least that's the impression I got. Maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah but the movement isn't bad if the air offers less resistance.

Now I need to check the ohm-ness of my existing 12L.

 

[King IzzO)))]

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They only made them in 8 ohms...

 

[uOpt]

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So I'm already stuck with one 16 and one 8 Ohm. Great