finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

[AlexR]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

The freaking knobs don't even match for $10,000 I would expect matching knobs. What do you guys think shouldn't knobs match or at least be close to matching.

Why on earth should paying more money equal same knobs???? Especially given its an artist spec.

I'd also be very disappointed on a Greeny LP clone to have same knobs given the original didn't.


And amongst all the very expensive CC guitars you pick a mid-priced Custom shop artist model to claim you think Gibson is finally going too farmg:

If that guitar is True Historic spec then thats fairly close standard pricing. Add in perhaps some more expensive pickups and you're there straight away.

 

[Boogie Bill]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

You like it $10,000 much?

Let's put it this way.... (keeping in mind that at the moment I don't have the $10K.)

I like Historic LPs. I have four, but I'm trying to sell my R9. At some point in the future, after the R9 and some other gear I have sells, I may look for another Flame-top LP. I will probably hunt for a used one, but I have good relationships with a couple of dealers--and I bargain HARD, so a new one isn't totally out of the question.

So if I walk into that store and they have one and I have money in my pocket AND (important part) it is the most incredible eff-ing Les Paul I've ever played, and it SPEAKS to me...yeah, maybe I do it. But I would have to have the guitar in hand to make that kind of decision. The color...yeah a little strange, but on the other hand...it is unique, and I like that. I would love to see it under stage lights.

One of the Pauls I have is from Gibson's Guitar Of The Week series from a few years ago. It is a Classic Antique model, with the top finished by graphic artist Tom Morgan. It's a great sounding guitar, and while I always get a lot of positive comments from women, most guys hate it. I like it; that's what matters.

I currently have sixty guitars...a lot of really super guitars, so I will spend the money for a great guitar.

Bill

 

[Mincer]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

The total sum of all my guitars is less than $10K, but that's a nice looking guitar.

The funny thing is, to me the most impressive thing about Joe is his gear. Tone second, playing third and songs last.

I agree with all of this- I am the same. It is pretty. I wouldn't buy it , but I wouldn't buy one at $2k, either. Not my kind of thing. At this point, burst LPs are really common and aren't interesting to me. But if I had that money to only spend on a guitar, I'd rather give it to a luthier that will build exactly what I want, and the 4 would pay his bills for a few months.

 

[jtees4]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Gibson has not lost their minds. If they sell it, then they made a good business decision. If they sell it for 1/2 price they probably still have made a great business decision. This is America, we can vote by not buying it at their price. I wouldn't....and it is a beautiful guitar by the way. But then again, I'm cheap and I usually buy used and only when I get a good price. That's how I've managed to own nice stuff and not be in debt, in fact I have a nice profit overall....so my gas has actually made me money, just by being patient and being able to walk away. When I was young I could not or would not do that.

 

[BenJB]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Joe is a great player and I respect that, but his songs and performance come across as completely derivative. He's like the ultimate cover band. But, that guitar is hot. I love a good clown-burst. Not $6k or $10k worth though.

 

[treyhaislip]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

You obviously have never had good tomato soup and six grand to blow. LOL

After checking it out - it's finish is the color of tomato soup....it's not like a Campbell's logo or something.

Pretty ugly finish, IMO.

As far as the price, Gibson or whoever owns it can charge whatever they want–it will either sell or sit and they will either keep it or reduce the price until someone buys it.

 

[Coma]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

I don't get it. Looks like a plain ol' HCSB to me

 

[bloomfieldriffs]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Joe is a great player and I respect that, but his songs and performance come across as completely derivative. He's like the ultimate cover band. But, that guitar is hot. I love a good clown-burst. Not $6k or $10k worth though.

In my biased opinion every Blues guitar player since the late sixties and early seventies, when Clapton, Bloomfield, Green...started as covering the previous generation players but hit on an evolutionary progression, have been cover band players with a few exceptions like Cray and SRV...JB falls somewhere certainly not a SRV but more than just a talented player just doing covers. But in the end it doesn't really , everyone has there own taste and no one has any business forcing there opinion anyone else. I think I know what I said just now but not really sure.

 

[LLL]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Here's the reason why items/services like this exist:

Because people buy them. The law of supply and demand.

Now imagine, if you will, a world where no one bought Gibson... Gibson would cease to exist. But before that happened,
in order to keep the company afloat, they would be forced to lower their prices.

Generally speaking, the typical consumer isn't very bright... and even lazier. So, for example, instead of switching
to another cable company to lower their bill, they begrudgingly continue to pay a higher fee... out of convenience (laziness).

To sum up, it's not ultimately Gibson's fault things like these exist - it's the consumers'. If consumers nutted up and
put their foot down when businesses tried to fleece them, the world would be a much better place.

 

[LLL]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Oh yeah, and I'd never pay $10K for a guitar that's friggin' backwards. :13:

 

[BenJB]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

In my biased opinion every Blues guitar player since the late sixties and early seventies, when Clapton, Bloomfield, Green...started as covering the previous generation players but hit on an evolutionary progression, have been cover band players with a few exceptions like Cray and SRV...JB falls somewhere certainly not a SRV but more than just a talented player just doing covers. But in the end it doesn't really , everyone has there own taste and no one has any business forcing there opinion anyone else. I think I know what I said just now but not really sure.

It's completely fair and true to say all blues is derivative to varying extents. A lot of people love Joe's playing so he's doing something right. I guess it's just not for me. I do think he would be a totally awesome person to hang out with though. I probably watch his interviews more than his performances.

I guess what I forgot to say is, I'm not sure why I would want a Joe B. guitar. He's the best at mimicking others' sounds; he even owns Albert King's guitar for covering King. But, if I listen to BB King, Albert KING, SRV, even Clapton, I know who it is from the guitar even before a word is sung. I can't say that for Joe B., so why a signature guitar or signature humbuckers?

 

[DMR]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

In my biased opinion every Blues guitar player since the late sixties and early seventies, when Clapton, Bloomfield, Green...started as covering the previous generation players but hit on an evolutionary progression, have been cover band players with a few exceptions like Cray and SRV...JB falls somewhere certainly not a SRV but more than just a talented player just doing covers. But in the end it doesn't really , everyone has there own taste and no one has any business forcing there opinion anyone else. I think I know what I said just now but not really sure.

I agree (if i'm reading you right). To my ears, I can't think of a form of music that is more derivative of itself than blues guitar. Walk into any bar gig or music store across the country and if somebody's playing blues......chances are it all sounds pretty much the same. Same with the multitudes of vids on youtube. I'll never forget riding in the car with my wife one time playing the SRV and Double Trouble Greatest Hits album and after a while she was like "all these songs sound the same".

 

[LLL]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Here's my take on the whole blues thing:

 

[DMR]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Great scene from of the most under-rated comedy films of all time.

 

[baritone]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

I thought she was the hottest girl imaginable when I was young.

 

[bloomfieldriffs]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Here's my take on the whole blues thing:

If blues is phony white kids trying to act like black BROs who really know themselves down to the roots what is the music that clicks for you?

 

[LLL]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

If blues is phony white kids trying to act like black BROs who really know themselves down to the roots what is the music that clicks for you?

There's a few items in that clip that sum it up. A caveat to this is that I dig the blues (but not my fave genre).

First, there's a lot of fakers.

Second, a lot of guitarists can play blues scales, but you gotta have the blues (or have experienced the blues) to be authentic.

Third, booze helps. :13:

 

[AlexR]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

This is my take on the blues......the key is from about 1:45

You don't have to be black for sure.

 

[HiFiRebel]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

I love the finish and hate the price.

 

[rjudo]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

It's completely fair and true to say all blues is derivative to varying extents. A lot of people love Joe's playing so he's doing something right. I guess it's just not for me. I do think he would be a totally awesome person to hang out with though. I probably watch his interviews more than his performances.

I guess what I forgot to say is, I'm not sure why I would want a Joe B. guitar. He's the best at mimicking others' sounds; he even owns Albert King's guitar for covering King. But, if I listen to BB King, Albert KING, SRV, even Clapton, I know who it is from the guitar even before a word is sung. I can't say that for Joe B., so why a signature guitar or signature humbuckers?

This.
I do like Joe's playing and lord knows I wish I had his talent, but I don't see how he is a signature gear guy. Like BenJB said, most of the greats you know who's playing in a few notes. Hell that seems to be true even if some of those guys play on someone else's rig. Joe is a guy fantastic chops, some o.k. songs and just awful singing. I actually like him best when he is paying with others and not doing his own stuff. I would love to hang out with him and drink beer and talk guitars, but I wont be able to name any of his tunes in a few notes.