finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

[plasticscouse]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

The colour to me honestly looks like an Epiphone sunburst colour. Not my taste at the price.

 

[jmh151]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Gibson isn't out of their minds... if you want a Les Paul, their studios play and sound just like their $2500 Les Paul's, without the fancy appointments. Gibson is marketing a certain segment of their guitars towards the luxury market, while still offering lower priced guitars before going to Epiphone. The price is based on what they believe the market will pay- and at $10,000, I doubt many stores will stock them, it'll be a custom order

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

It isn't Gibson that's lost their minds. It'll be that jaded lawyer who posts a NGD over this one.

But I'll bite - does anyone know what the Seymour Duncan 52-Nc and 53-Nc pickups are?

 

[ginormous]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

No diss to Joe B, I happen to like him a bit.
Not $10K like, but "yeah, he's got chops and a British blues attitude, I can dig that" like.

Gibson? The forum doesn't want anybody bashing OEMs (SD does supply for many name brands), but personally I've observed what I view as some wrong-headed decisions.
Marketing a guitar as a "luxury lifestyle fashion accessory" only makes them more vulnerable to market forces.
When times get tough, even Joe and Jane Average Rocker look in the gear bin to see what they can sell.
If a Bernie Madoff type comes along, the Richie Rich's will dump the sig models they paid dearly for, and the market will over-saturate.

For me, the bottom line is you can only get out of a guitar (or any instrument) what you put into it.
Upgrades, gigs, practice, life in general. If that guitar is like a third appendage, you'll play it naturally, and your ideas will flow.

When I get my piece of the rock, I'm gonna build my own. I've custom ordered guitars before, and built my own frankenstrat.
No sense in paying for someone else's sig model.
There's enough talented luthiers in this world, and plenty of great wood. Electronics abound -- hell, that's the reason SD's in business.
$10K? The whole "you can play the same kind of guitar as (FITB)" thing has puzzled me.
I'd rather be myself.

 

[backporchpicker]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Since blues playing has come up I want to put my nickle in. Blues is not two dimensional like the straightest distance between two points only works in two dimensions so it is at least an arc (more but not getting into van Kampen for now). Practicing blues scales and riffs of the best blues guitarists is a start but won't get you to playing blues it will just give you cold skill you need to do it when you find it. That arc is traveling through your soul and finding not just the sad and hurt feelings but finding the joy deep inside your heart and letting those feelings out through your fingers, guitar and amp. It is for most a long and difficult road and for some they just have the gift given to them. When you hear you know because you can feel it somebody said playing the blues is easy, feeling the blues is what is hard or something like that and they were exactly right. Regarding Joe he is a master technician but he is not a great blues guitarist he hasn't found it in his heart yet I think he will but he has to be looking for those places in himself where the real blues comes from.

 

[Mincer]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Interesting discussion on the blues. As a player who is not a blues player, but plays in a band that gets lumped in (and marketed) as a blues band, I play a lot of festivals. And I was talking about this very subject on a radio interview yesterday. Blues these days is really 'in a box'. You have to wear a costume (a bowling shirt and fedora helps), play a certain type of guitar (not invented after 1962), and use a certain kind of amp.
Performers do the 'entertaining' thing, rarely deviating from the type of performance that BB King was doing in the 50s. And if there are any players out there adding anything new to the blues, I haven't heard it. I don't define the blues as a chord progression, a series of bends with the pentatonic scale, or guitar faces at the right time, though. Many do, which forces the once-revolutionary/rebellious art form into a stagnant lounge act.

 

[backporchpicker]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Interesting discussion on the blues. As a player who is not a blues player, but plays in a band that gets lumped in (and marketed) as a blues band, I play a lot of festivals. And I was talking about this very subject on a radio interview yesterday. Blues these days is really 'in a box'. You have to wear a costume (a bowling shirt and fedora helps), play a certain type of guitar (not invented after 1962), and use a certain kind of amp.
Performers do the 'entertaining' thing, rarely deviating from the type of performance that BB King was doing in the 50s. And if there are any players out there adding anything new to the blues, I haven't heard it. I don't define the blues as a chord progression, a series of bends with the pentatonic scale, or guitar faces at the right time, though. Many do, which forces the once-revolutionary/rebellious art form into a stagnant lounge act.

Begging your pardon but what you describe sounds like a circus act...sad...

 

[Mincer]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

It is sad to go to a blues festival and see act after act of essentially the same thing. You might like one more than the other, but that is just preference- they are all playing the same thing, wearing the same thing, doing the same tricks like walking around the audience with their guitar, etc.... The bands that don't (maybe more jazz, maybe they have interesting arrangements, etc) don't get nearly the crowd response. In other words, the musicians are sort of forced into throwing this once proud style into a box.

 

[AlexR]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Newsflash........

Tomato soup Les Paul totally misrepresented by OP.

Retail price $4000.....limited to 150 units

http://www.gibson.com/Products/Elec...Les-Paul-Joe-Bonamassa-Tomato-Soup-Burst.aspx

A more expensive version at retail $6000, limited to 50 units

http://www.gibson.com/Products/Elec...oe-Bonamassa-Tomato-Soup-Burst-Signature.aspx

 

[Mincer]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

I wonder where the original price came from? List?

 

[bloomfieldriffs]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Newsflash........

Tomato soup Les Paul totally misrepresented by OP.

Retail price $4000.....limited to 150 units

http://www.gibson.com/Products/Elec...Les-Paul-Joe-Bonamassa-Tomato-Soup-Burst.aspx

A more expensive version at retail $6000, limited to 50 units

http://www.gibson.com/Products/Elec...oe-Bonamassa-Tomato-Soup-Burst-Signature.aspx

Get serious, I posted a link to the $10,000 guitar on sale for $6,000. Somebody must have viewed that link I didn't make it up maybe it was an error in the original listing and has been deleted that would make sense since the $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul surely didn't make sense. Maybe we got Gibson caught with their pants down. Think before you type AR I did not misrepresent anything and consider your statement slanderous and has no place on this forum.

 

[bloomfieldriffs]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

I wonder where the original price came from? List?

Mincer, I gotta ask, how did you get so much sustain outta your guitar on Brahma's Revenge? The notes don't decay at all as far as I can hear.

 

[Mincer]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Oh cool! Thanks for noticing! Funny thing...that was actually a Strat with a JB Jr, and I recorded direct (with an older Boss GT-Pro) with the studio monitors really really loud. Now I use different gear, and don't perform nearly as loud as I record, so I do it all with a little compression and technique.

 

[AlexR]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Get serious, I posted a link to the $10,000 guitar on sale for $6,000. Somebody must have viewed that link I didn't make it up maybe it was an error in the original listing and has been deleted that would make sense since the $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul surely didn't make sense. Maybe we got Gibson caught with their pants down. Think before you type AR I did not misrepresent anything and consider your statement slanderous and has no place on this forum.

Usually when making a combatitive thread like 'Gibson has lost their minds' it tends to be good form to actually do the right research.....like going to the source.
Less painful and embarrassing when the actuality emerges. As we see from your response above.

 

[bloomfieldriffs]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

If $10,000 seems like scrimping you can go a little further down the road and pick up a $14,000 tomato soup Les Paul. https://www.amazon.com/Gibson-Custom-Ultra-Aged-Electric-Sunburst/dp/B009LRJHES/ref=sr_1_4?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1474154394&sr=1-4&keywords=custom+les+paul AR, this ones for you I just know it.

 

[AlexR]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Nah.....all good.

At least its got matched knobs.....thats gotta be worth at least a few grand more;-)

I prefer to build my own these days.......Gibson shafted us leftys way before current overpriced guitars came into being.

 

[LLL]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Gibson shafted us leftys way before current overpriced guitars came into being.

Indeed.

With one exception: 2013 Elliot Easton Tikibird.

 

[AlexR]

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^ Yeah.....that is REALLY cool. The other pity is that the Aussie distributor doesn't bring in anything unusual....even if you put money down on it.


I built my own bird.

 

[Guitaraxz]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

does anyone know what the Seymour Duncan 52-Nc and 53-Nc pickups are?

I second that request. Info please.

 

[LedSabbath]

Re: finally has happened Gibson has lost it's minds! $10,000 tomato soup Les Paul

Why are you complaining? Even a 1000 dollar Gibson/ Fender/ any brand doesn't make economic sense. Ever heard of someone building a guitar with brand-name parts for less than a thousand?

That's because they don't have to pay for labor, testing, inspections, and warranty.