flanger hoax?

[cream123]

is it worth getting? i'm looking to get some weird, weird sounds that can be added for ambience in a song

 

[caucajun]

Re: flanger hoax?

only the user can tell. you'll hafta take a chance like the rest of us. i find it useful for some things.....not for others.

 

[cream123]

Re: flanger hoax?

well, i guess that it was a terrible question. is it usable for an ambient feel. i'm hoping to get sounds that make people think that my guitar is in fact not a guitar at all

 

[millsart]

Re: flanger hoax?

Its pretty confusing to figure out as each knob interacts with every other knob, and then even if you do get a cool sound, being able to repeat it is tough

I personally dont think it really adds much ambience or atmosphere, more like just crazy atonal noises, kind of like that really bad "electronic" music, Aphex Twin, Achture, stuff like that it excels in.



If you want a great tool for adding ambience to your tracks, theres a softsynth/sampler called Atmosphere.

It comes with about 3 gigs of samples that feed its synthesis engine and the thing is amazing.

Its got a few hundeds patches of drones, evolving pads, swells, you name it.


Every song intro, breakdown etc you could ever imagine this thing can do

 

[caucajun]

Re: flanger hoax?

the flanger by itself can get wierd, but, it's limited. if you ad in some reverb, delay, reverse delay, fuzz, ring modulation, etc......then, you can get those etereal sounds i'm guessing that you're looking for. any modern multi effects unit can do this. want my boss me-50? $200.

chuck

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: flanger hoax?

Are we just talking flangers in general?

The best way to use a flanger is like EVH used to do, like in Unchained, where it's set to be super obnoxious, but he only kicks it on for a second of two. I had a Digitech box way back when that had an envelope-controlled flanger setting.... that was sweeeeet!

 

[caucajun]

Re: flanger hoax?

my dad had a boat saying,too .....he said "a boat is a hole in the water in which i pour money".........then he said..."get th' net!"

 

[cream123]

Re: flanger hoax?

well here's what i meant by ambience (that whole post was terribly worded). i want to be able to play my guitar and make people wonder what thye are hearing. EVERYONE plays guitar. i'm not able to play guitar amazingly well....few people are. so i'm trying to shake my playing style up a little bit

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: flanger hoax?

If I may be brutally honest, don't try to cover up what you consider to be sub-par playing with effects. At best, it will be an entertaining novelty for a few minutes. After that, it will sound like crap playing with a flanger going "wooooaaaaaaahhhhhhoooowwwww" over top of it.

A good analogy for this is newer movies where the CGI is amazing, but the acting and writing suck.

But to answer your question, a flanger isn't going to make your guitar totally unrecognizable. A ring modulator might fool non-guitarists, though.

 

[cream123]

Re: flanger hoax?

If I may be brutally honest, don't try to cover up what you consider to be sub-par playing with effects. At best, it will be an entertaining novelty for a few minutes. After that, it will sound like crap playing with a flanger going "wooooaaaaaaahhhhhhoooowwwww" over top of it.

A good analogy for this is newer movies where the CGI is amazing, but the acting and writing suck.

But to answer your question, a flanger isn't going to make your guitar totally unrecognizable. A ring modulator might fool non-guitarists, though.

thats not really what i meant either. ugh

everyone plays guitar. EVERYONE. and their dogs too. what i'm trying to say is that no matter how good i am, i will be a guitarist. playin the same old stuff that everyone else plays. thats what i dont' want. i want people to realize that i'm a musician, not a guitarist.

i don't really know how to explain it. i loathe being a guitarist, but i like doing it. its like being the executive of an oil company. if i were one, i wouldn't like ripping people off but i like the money.

basically, i hate being a guitar play but i enjoy playing. just b/c everyone can play guitar and the stuff that i play is not appreciated these days as good music therefore no one around me thinks i'm good. ugh......screw it.

 

[LunaticFringe]

Re: flanger hoax?

I feel exactly the same, man.

 

[LukeGilmour]

Re: flanger hoax?

i second that. i feel you bro

and i am totally in the lookout for the same thing youre looking for.

something that sounds like a synth, that comes and goes and makes sonic landscapes, in other words, ambiences.

so you can arpeggiate maybe 2 or 3 chords and it would mean a subterranean experience or whatever

let me know if you find something helpful

as far as i know i found that a phaser and a delay can do wonderful things, and you can try some of the moog products... they have REALLY cool things to experiment with

http://www.moogmusic.com/moogerfooger/?section=product&product_id=117

 

[caucajun]

Re: flanger hoax?

if you're not already listening to frank zappa........you oughta be.

i think he would speak to you.

pm'd ya

 

[cream123]

Re: flanger hoax?

if you're not already listening to frank zappa........you oughta be.

i think he would speak to you.

pm'd ya

i've got an album of zappa, just his best hits...the strictly commercial one. I really love the song Be in my Video. its really great.

 

[caucajun]

Re: flanger hoax?

a good one. now....rush right out and get "sheik yourbouti".

go!:eyecrazy:

 

[cream123]

Re: flanger hoax?

a good one. now....rush right out and get "sheik yourbouti".

go!:eyecrazy:

lol, i might. i've got to prioritize my money

 

[LukeGilmour]

Re: flanger hoax?

a good one. now....rush right out and get "sheik yourbouti".

go!:eyecrazy:

i like the album... but im not sure that its what the thread creator is looking for.

 

[caucajun]

Re: flanger hoax?

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[JB_From_Hell]

Re: flanger hoax?

thats not really what i meant either. ugh

everyone plays guitar. EVERYONE. and their dogs too. what i'm trying to say is that no matter how good i am, i will be a guitarist. playin the same old stuff that everyone else plays. thats what i dont' want. i want people to realize that i'm a musician, not a guitarist.

i don't really know how to explain it. i loathe being a guitarist, but i like doing it. its like being the executive of an oil company. if i were one, i wouldn't like ripping people off but i like the money.

basically, i hate being a guitar play but i enjoy playing. just b/c everyone can play guitar and the stuff that i play is not appreciated these days as good music therefore no one around me thinks i'm good. ugh......screw it.

You said that you think your playing is sub-par, and that you want people to not know that your guitar is a guitar. I guess my reply was way off base.




Seriosuly though, you really need to quit for awhile.

 

[cream123]

Re: flanger hoax?

You said that you think your playing is sub-par, and that you want people to not know that your guitar is a guitar. I guess my reply was way off base.




Seriosuly though, you really need to quit for awhile.

lol, i can't. i'm in a band and its all i do for like 2 or 3 hours a day