floyd rose and flutter
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: floyd rose and flutter
It is quite logical when you think about it!
It is quite logical when you think about it!
Re: floyd rose and flutter
no, it's not logical because it's not written in the manual and my luthier did the action without removing the springs or detuning the guitar
so if i read the manual i can change the height and no problem but i saw a video
and it said that if you want to keep the flutter = the bar who moves when you play with one finger
we should never do that without removing the springs
and we must loosen the strings too (it takes a long time)
no, it's not logical because it's not written in the manual and my luthier did the action without removing the springs or detuning the guitar
so if i read the manual i can change the height and no problem but i saw a video
and it said that if you want to keep the flutter = the bar who moves when you play with one finger
we should never do that without removing the springs
and we must loosen the strings too (it takes a long time)
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ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: floyd rose and flutter
ok maybe I just have trouble with the english language
but I have yet to understand what the frick ya'll are talking about
I have a Floyded Ibby (EdgeIII)
and when I shake it I get a flutter that is audible when its plugged in
as the entire bridge moves slightly in and out
but I fear this is not what this thread is about
as ya'll keep talking bout fingers and taking strings off
come on guys 'splain it to the Country boy
ok maybe I just have trouble with the english language
but I have yet to understand what the frick ya'll are talking about
I have a Floyded Ibby (EdgeIII)
and when I shake it I get a flutter that is audible when its plugged in
as the entire bridge moves slightly in and out
but I fear this is not what this thread is about
as ya'll keep talking bout fingers and taking strings off
come on guys 'splain it to the Country boy
PFDarkside
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Re: floyd rose and flutter
Floyd Rose Flutter:
It's basically pulling the bar down a touch, then slipping your finger off so the bridge kind of "bounces" or releases the spring energy in a unique way. I can do it on my American Standard bridge too.
always SD, are you trying to figure out how to float a Floyd Rose so that you can flutter and pull up?
Floyd Rose Flutter:
It's basically pulling the bar down a touch, then slipping your finger off so the bridge kind of "bounces" or releases the spring energy in a unique way. I can do it on my American Standard bridge too.
always SD, are you trying to figure out how to float a Floyd Rose so that you can flutter and pull up?
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Re: floyd rose and flutter
I meant that lower or raise the floyd rose tremolo can damaging it
and this could be less "flutter" = the tremolo bar will not move at all
I read that it is advisable to remove the springs and loosen the strings if you want to lower or raise the pitch of vibrato
if not, it's going to damage it
that's all but it is not written in the manual and i saw a luthier doing this too
i have done it myself too but i don' t know if it changed a lot the situation
i am ok with what i have seen in the video but it's a very long to loosen the strings+remove springs
I meant that lower or raise the floyd rose tremolo can damaging it
and this could be less "flutter" = the tremolo bar will not move at all
I read that it is advisable to remove the springs and loosen the strings if you want to lower or raise the pitch of vibrato
if not, it's going to damage it
that's all but it is not written in the manual and i saw a luthier doing this too
i have done it myself too but i don' t know if it changed a lot the situation
i am ok with what i have seen in the video but it's a very long to loosen the strings+remove springs
Re: floyd rose and flutter
i thought that my luthier was good but i am disappointed now
you don't like my english but you don't know what the flutter is all about lol....funny...
the flutter is when the bar is at the opposite side = not above the pickups
then put your finger and push it on the bar
the bar must move = good flutter
it the bar does not move a lot, your floyd rose is damaged... because the "zero point or point zero" would be damaged too
i read that if you want to change the height (the action so, with the floyd rose) you should never adjust the floyd rose (the height) WITHOUT loosen the strings
and removing the springs
if you don't do that: the tremolo bar can't stay at zero =------
and not in tune maybe
and you won't have the positive effects of the flutter
for example i h ave a new guitar and it's perfect
i have an old guitar and it doesn't move a lot, so problem
i thought that my luthier was good but i am disappointed now
you don't like my english but you don't know what the flutter is all about lol....funny...
the flutter is when the bar is at the opposite side = not above the pickups
then put your finger and push it on the bar
the bar must move = good flutter
it the bar does not move a lot, your floyd rose is damaged... because the "zero point or point zero" would be damaged too
i read that if you want to change the height (the action so, with the floyd rose) you should never adjust the floyd rose (the height) WITHOUT loosen the strings
and removing the springs
if you don't do that: the tremolo bar can't stay at zero =------
and not in tune maybe
and you won't have the positive effects of the flutter
for example i h ave a new guitar and it's perfect
i have an old guitar and it doesn't move a lot, so problem
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Archer250
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: floyd rose and flutter
It is logical....two knifeedges, two posts that will turn against the knifes....removal of material on the posts....result...Floyd not going back to pitch.....fail to see the logic now?
It is logical....two knifeedges, two posts that will turn against the knifes....removal of material on the posts....result...Floyd not going back to pitch.....fail to see the logic now?
Archer250
Well-known member
Re: floyd rose and flutter
No, here: "for example i h ave a new guitar and it's perfect
i have an old guitar and it doesn't move a lot, so problem"
Still wrapping my head around that.
No, here: "for example i h ave a new guitar and it's perfect
i have an old guitar and it doesn't move a lot, so problem"
Still wrapping my head around that.
kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
Re: floyd rose and flutter
Butterfly's are pretty.
Butterfly's are pretty.
ehdwuld
A Ficus
Re: floyd rose and flutter
is this what he's talking about?
really?
I mean really?
then yeah
Don't do that
its silly
is this what he's talking about?
really?
I mean really?
then yeah
Don't do that
its silly
Re: floyd rose and flutter
i just want to tell you that to make this technique
some people said to
loosen the strings and springs first
this is the answer from FLOYD ROSE :
"you don't necessarily have to take the string tension off to adjust the action. Technically it would be safer and better for your knife edges, but it's not really necessary.
You would lower the action just by tightening the two screws down into the inserts.
it's technically the safest thing to do. Especially if working with a licensed bridge where the materials are more inferior, I'd say it's a good idea to do so.
However, we generally don't loosen string tension, and definitely not spring tension before adjusting action here.
Floyd Rose Support"
so, now you know !
but be careful if you want to add a tremsetter
https://www.hipshotproducts.com/faqs/category/tremsetter-faq.html
it's not good for flutter ! and the tension will be stronger
Clapton had the solution: he blocked the vibrato
i just want to tell you that to make this technique
some people said to
loosen the strings and springs first
this is the answer from FLOYD ROSE :
"you don't necessarily have to take the string tension off to adjust the action. Technically it would be safer and better for your knife edges, but it's not really necessary.
You would lower the action just by tightening the two screws down into the inserts.
it's technically the safest thing to do. Especially if working with a licensed bridge where the materials are more inferior, I'd say it's a good idea to do so.
However, we generally don't loosen string tension, and definitely not spring tension before adjusting action here.
Floyd Rose Support"
so, now you know !
but be careful if you want to add a tremsetter
https://www.hipshotproducts.com/faqs/category/tremsetter-faq.html
it's not good for flutter ! and the tension will be stronger
Clapton had the solution: he blocked the vibrato
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