floyd rose pros and cons

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jmh151 said:
A very important point to a Floyd guitar, if you're building one from parts, is the neck angle. If you recess the Floyd it won't be a problem, but if you have it rest fluch so it only goes down, you need a 2 percent neck angle which only Warmoth provides


Heh, mines non-recessed and the way it's set up you can still pull up and down on it just fine.

Sure you can't pull up an extremely long way, but I don't know that I'd want to.

That probably also explains why mine has a warmoth neck on it.
 
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larry_emder said:
Can someone else verify this? It doesnt seem to make sense to me.

Really? It doesn´t make sense that a system designed for the ultimate in tuning stability when using the bar isnt just as ultimately stable when teh bar isn´t used?

To me that´s a very logical conclusion. And Also something that is my experience. I´m not a heavy floyd wanker (occasional subtle use), but I really enjoy always knowing that I can take any guitar out of it´s case and not need more than 5 secs of fine tuning before I can rip ;)

jmh151 said:
A very important point to a Floyd guitar, if you're building one from parts, is the neck angle. If you recess the Floyd it won't be a problem, but if you have it rest fluch so it only goes down, you need a 2 percent neck angle which only Warmoth provides

Not quite true. Warmoth is the only mass manufacturer of aftermarket replacement bodies with any sort of notoriety. There are numerous other sources, such as Musikraft or USACG (I have asked, both will angle a neck pocket)

Mephis said:
Heh, mines non-recessed and the way it's set up you can still pull up and down on it just fine.

Sure you can't pull up an extremely long way, but I don't know that I'd want to.

That probably also explains why mine has a warmoth neck on it.

He´s not talking about missing up pull range, he´s talking about the fact that a top mounted floyd such as on an old Charvel, when combined with a flat neck angle, will result in unplayably high action or SRV Style at best.
 
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Zerberus said:
He´s not talking about missing up pull range, he´s talking about the fact that a top mounted floyd such as on an old Charvel, when combined with a flat neck angle, will result in unplayably high action or SRV Style at best.


Ah thanks for the clairifaction.
 
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Marty Friedman claims taht Floyd sucks in tuning stability ,thats why he do not use them!!!
MAybe he means the bending issues that happens with the unbended strings!!!
I play mostly hardtail guitars ,and i have never tuning problems when i bend ,2 whole steps!!!
But with Floyd it is impossible.It is harder to bend ,since the floyd moves with the string together ,it is not as resonant as hardtail guitars for my ears ,and i think it sounds allways thinner.But ,OTOH ,they are better for shredding ,since the tone is more focused.
Anyways ,all my favorite tones are from non trem guitars.If you like the trem tone ,buy one.if not ,buy a digitech whammy!!
 
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there were 3 springs attached inside the back of the guitar, if that's what you're referring to. in the end, i tightened them up so much that the bottom end of the trem rested on the guitar. not ideal cause you can't bend the bar up but only down, if that makes sense. but at least the trem position sort of returned back to where it started.
 
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can any of yall tell me about the lisenced floyds that come on schecters?

are the adequet enough?
 
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Zerberus said:
Not quite true. Warmoth is the only mass manufacturer of aftermarket replacement bodies with any sort of notoriety. There are numerous other sources, such as Musikraft or USACG (I have asked, both will angle a neck pocket)

Now I'm mad. I e-mailed both USACG and Musikraft, and neither of them offered a neck angle for the Floyd. Now it's too late and I have to send the guitar to a lutheir to route the correct angle.
 
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a7x_rox_12 said:
can any of yall tell me about the lisenced floyds that come on schecters?

are the adequet enough?
They should be OK. Not the BEST thing on the market but, they should be adequet. I changed the liscensed unit off My Jackson SL-4 for a OFR. The tone was a bit better with the OFR but, the tuning satability was the same in that situation.
 
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larry_emder said:
Can someone else verify this? It doesnt seem to make sense to me.

Yep, my Floyds stay in tune better than my fixed bridges. Why?

1) No nut to bind on
2) no saddle to bind on (this is theoretical -- I don't think that saddle binding is affecting tuning stability on my fixed bridge guitars).
3) The springs keep string tension in equilibrium, so that changes in weather dont' affect tuning as the wood contracts and expands.
 
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