Floyd rose sucks
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Re: Floyd rose sucks
Best tremolo I have used is a hip shot remolo system on my Lipe Virtuoso. Stays in tune no matter what and does not go wack with setup when you restring or break a string.
True floating bridges like Floyds and Ibanez Edge Pros can be a pain, no doubt, once dialed in, they are great and hold tune. I do not do crazy bombs or anything, but use the whammy bar more for serious single note vibrato and adding some character to unique triads when soloing. A properly cut nut is important for a non locking tremolo system.
Best tremolo I have used is a hip shot remolo system on my Lipe Virtuoso. Stays in tune no matter what and does not go wack with setup when you restring or break a string.
True floating bridges like Floyds and Ibanez Edge Pros can be a pain, no doubt, once dialed in, they are great and hold tune. I do not do crazy bombs or anything, but use the whammy bar more for serious single note vibrato and adding some character to unique triads when soloing. A properly cut nut is important for a non locking tremolo system.
Chickenwings
Alnico 6/8
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+1 The tone things: thins brightens... are just a matter of taste. And it being ugly is also just a matter of taste. Yes it's PITA to set up THE FIRST TIME. Then it's done and if you don't change string gauge every week it's not that big of a deal. I've intonated my FR once in 10 years and I've used 9's 10's 11's 9-46, 9-50 and 10-52 in it and had no problem with the intonation so you don't even have to intonate it every time.
To all of you who think that FR are too much work, well that's just LIFE. Nothing ain't free and usually not-so-easy.
+1 The tone things: thins brightens... are just a matter of taste. And it being ugly is also just a matter of taste. Yes it's PITA to set up THE FIRST TIME. Then it's done and if you don't change string gauge every week it's not that big of a deal. I've intonated my FR once in 10 years and I've used 9's 10's 11's 9-46, 9-50 and 10-52 in it and had no problem with the intonation so you don't even have to intonate it every time.
To all of you who think that FR are too much work, well that's just LIFE. Nothing ain't free and usually not-so-easy.
JB6464
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Re: Floyd rose sucks
+1,000,000,000
Been using Floyds on my super strats for over 25 yrs and never have to mess with them once their originally setup and intonated.
The only thing that sucks is when you break a string live , your tuning is screwed but nothing is perfect.
I also use the original Floyds that don't have the fine tuners on them as well. Floyds are best bridges for real tremolo work and floating bridge setups in my book.
+1,000,000,000
Been using Floyds on my super strats for over 25 yrs and never have to mess with them once their originally setup and intonated.
The only thing that sucks is when you break a string live , your tuning is screwed but nothing is perfect.
I also use the original Floyds that don't have the fine tuners on them as well. Floyds are best bridges for real tremolo work and floating bridge setups in my book.
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Re: Floyd rose sucks
I have one on my old Kramer Pacer but I am usually a fixed bridge guy.
For me the oddest thing about using a Floyd is the slight flutter you get, even when chording (I use 3 springs on my Floyd). But it is something I got use to and deal with. I find I don't break strings too much as long as I use a fairly heavy string. Intonation was fairly easy and I have had no problems with the guitar staying in tune. I went with a big brass block on the floyd so my tone is fairly thick but it definitely is not as "full" as a hardtail.
I like using a whammy once in a while - for me it just provides a different approach to a song
I have one on my old Kramer Pacer but I am usually a fixed bridge guy.
For me the oddest thing about using a Floyd is the slight flutter you get, even when chording (I use 3 springs on my Floyd). But it is something I got use to and deal with. I find I don't break strings too much as long as I use a fairly heavy string. Intonation was fairly easy and I have had no problems with the guitar staying in tune. I went with a big brass block on the floyd so my tone is fairly thick but it definitely is not as "full" as a hardtail.
I like using a whammy once in a while - for me it just provides a different approach to a song
Christopher Caruana
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Thats why I ONLY like flush mounted floyds. I had a Kramer '85 baretta RI a few years back and it would sing all day long! sustain like you wouldnt believe......but on the other hand I have also played other floyded guitars that wouldnt sustain at all
Thats why I ONLY like flush mounted floyds. I had a Kramer '85 baretta RI a few years back and it would sing all day long! sustain like you wouldnt believe......but on the other hand I have also played other floyded guitars that wouldnt sustain at all
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Sirweepalot!
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Chris of Arabia
Desert RATT
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Never had one, wouldn't know...
Never had one, wouldn't know...
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King IzzO)))
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More controversy from this poster? I see a pattern emerging.
More controversy from this poster? I see a pattern emerging.
darthphineas
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or Brad Gillis or Neal Schon or Alex Lifeson?
I've been using FRs for abotu 27 years. I'll admit to not being able to really play guitar, but I think all these cats can play just fine with a FR. especially considering that guys like Gillis and Schon are 2 of the very few people that were able to even get PRS to put FRs on guitars for them.
or Brad Gillis or Neal Schon or Alex Lifeson?
I've been using FRs for abotu 27 years. I'll admit to not being able to really play guitar, but I think all these cats can play just fine with a FR. especially considering that guys like Gillis and Schon are 2 of the very few people that were able to even get PRS to put FRs on guitars for them.
LedSabbath
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2. Vai and Satch really aren't that good
3. Floyds are crap compared to say, a vintage Strat bridge with a tremol-no or a trem-setter.
I can't say anything of Petrucci, as I haven't listen to his music.
1. EVH does SUCK really bad
2. Vai and Satch really aren't that good
3. Floyds are crap compared to say, a vintage Strat bridge with a tremol-no or a trem-setter.
I can't say anything of Petrucci, as I haven't listen to his music.
jmh151
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IMO a Floyd shouldn't be retrofitted on a guitar, a guitar must be designed from the ground up to ge used with a Floyd. This means using basswood or Mahogany to balance out the slight brightness and slight metallic tone, and using slightly hotter pickups. You take a strat with typical strat single coils, and alder body and add a Floyd, and yes, it will sound thin. To compensate add a Big Block.
IMO a Floyd shouldn't be retrofitted on a guitar, a guitar must be designed from the ground up to ge used with a Floyd. This means using basswood or Mahogany to balance out the slight brightness and slight metallic tone, and using slightly hotter pickups. You take a strat with typical strat single coils, and alder body and add a Floyd, and yes, it will sound thin. To compensate add a Big Block.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
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So I was right....Putting a FR on a strat that originally had a stock bridge,makes for a brighter,thinner tone? I have an 80s strat like that with a FR and I never play it..It currently has a Fralin SP43 in the bridge spot,but I stole the CS Fat 50s neck and middle and stuck them in my recent blonde strat...
So I was right....Putting a FR on a strat that originally had a stock bridge,makes for a brighter,thinner tone? I have an 80s strat like that with a FR and I never play it..It currently has a Fralin SP43 in the bridge spot,but I stole the CS Fat 50s neck and middle and stuck them in my recent blonde strat...
ErikH
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When using a single-coil in the bridge still, yeah, I can see that happening. The bridge is sometimes thin anyway. Swap the pickguard and through a full-size humbucker in there or put a Hot Rails in it.
In both of my Floyded guitars I run the JB in the bridge. Neither have a big block and sound rather fat. They don't float either, just dive only. One is maple, the other is alder.
Warren DeMartini gets great results using alder Strat bodies with a Floyd and humbucker (his Duncan RTM or JB).
When using a single-coil in the bridge still, yeah, I can see that happening. The bridge is sometimes thin anyway. Swap the pickguard and through a full-size humbucker in there or put a Hot Rails in it.
In both of my Floyded guitars I run the JB in the bridge. Neither have a big block and sound rather fat. They don't float either, just dive only. One is maple, the other is alder.
Warren DeMartini gets great results using alder Strat bodies with a Floyd and humbucker (his Duncan RTM or JB).
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jmh151
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I think that's where all the complaints regarding Floyds came come since everyone was retrofitting them. These days, most Floyd equipped shredder axes you find in a music store will have hot humbucking pickups and in most cases mahogany or basswood bodies- and therefore no one has really complained lately of a Floyd giving a thinner tone. John Suhr indicated a Floyd gives extra clarity which some players prefer.
You'd need hot strat pickups with a darker tone to balance out the brightness. Again, it's designing from the ground up.
I think that's where all the complaints regarding Floyds came come since everyone was retrofitting them. These days, most Floyd equipped shredder axes you find in a music store will have hot humbucking pickups and in most cases mahogany or basswood bodies- and therefore no one has really complained lately of a Floyd giving a thinner tone. John Suhr indicated a Floyd gives extra clarity which some players prefer.
You'd need hot strat pickups with a darker tone to balance out the brightness. Again, it's designing from the ground up.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
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The Fralin SP43 is very P90ish....I'm pretty much an anti-humbucker in a strat kinda guy also..I May end up selling this strat anyway,cause it collects dust!
When I play a strat(s)....I prefer the 6 screw vintage style bridge...No FR for me!
The Fralin SP43 is very P90ish....I'm pretty much an anti-humbucker in a strat kinda guy also..I May end up selling this strat anyway,cause it collects dust!
When I play a strat(s)....I prefer the 6 screw vintage style bridge...No FR for me!