Floyd rose sucks

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I think that's where all the complaints regarding Floyds came come since everyone was retrofitting them. These days, most Floyd equipped shredder axes you find in a music store will have hot humbucking pickups and in most cases mahogany or basswood bodies- and therefore no one has really complained lately of a Floyd giving a thinner tone. John Suhr indicated a Floyd gives extra clarity which some players prefer.

You'd need hot strat pickups with a darker tone to balance out the brightness. Again, it's designing from the ground up.

In this strat that I own,I had an Original FR put in it during the early 80s...I'm sure the lefty Original is probably worth a few bucks to somebody also..Middle and neck pickups are out of this one and now in my blonde strat..

Here is that axe....
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1. EVH does SUCK really bad
2. Vai and Satch really aren't that good
3. Floyds are crap compared to say, a vintage Strat bridge with a tremol-no or a trem-setter.
I can't say anything of Petrucci, as I haven't listen to his music.

I have to ask if this is legitimately serious, I am not huge floyd fan so let's disregard #2... However, the rest of what you said is just plain non-sense. To even attempt to deny the playing ability of any of those players (even if it's not your style) is ridiculous.
 
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I have to ask if this is legitimately serious, I am not huge floyd fan so let's disregard #2... However, the rest of what you said is just plain non-sense. To even attempt to deny the playing ability of any of those players (even if it's not your style) is ridiculous.

I'm thinking the post was just tongue and cheek...Sarcastic funny!
 
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The Fralin SP43 is very P90ish....I'm pretty much an anti-humbucker in a strat kinda guy also..I May end up selling this strat anyway,cause it collects dust!

When I play a strat(s)....I prefer the 6 screw vintage style bridge...No FR for me!

Gotcha. I dig Floyds or the 6-screw trem (though I don't use the trem when it's not a Floyd...lol) and humbuckers in Strats. It's been my thing for years.

You could probably get a good price for that Strat.
 
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Gotcha. I dig Floyds or the 6-screw trem (though I don't use the trem when it's not a Floyd...lol) and humbuckers in Strats. It's been my thing for years.

You could probably get a good price for that Strat.

Being lefty though sucks! I hate selling stuff as it's hard to replace! Are you familiar with the Fralin SP43? Killer strat bridge pickup...Lew sold it to me..Thought about sticking it into one of the strats I use alot...Still quacks,but also grinds like a nice P90...

I Like the vintage bridge to float off the body about 3/32" or so..Mainly I use finger vibrato as I'm basically a blues player..When I do use the vibrato,I use it subtle to shake multiple notes or whole chords...
 
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The strat pictured is an early 80s American Standard strat that I bought brand new on layaway...I notice how sorry the low E pole is mis-aligned under the string... ;o) I'd actually replace that grren guard and trace it,moving that neck pickup towards the high E.
 
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1. EVH does SUCK really bad
2. Vai and Satch really aren't that good
3. Floyds are crap compared to say, a vintage Strat bridge with a tremol-no or a trem-setter.
I can't say anything of Petrucci, as I haven't listen to his music.

OK EVH does suck to day and the past few years yes. But he has done in the early years of Van Halen is nothing short of amazing and earned him the title Greatest Guitarist Ever (by some) even to this day and for the prime of his career and playing I think he truly was that.

If you honestly think that Vai and/or Satch are crap you should listen to their music (cause you obviously haven't) And then you should learn what a guitar actually is (it's a stringed instrument with which people make music) and then learn how to play it. And maybe then you might realize that what Vai and Satch are doing is almost beyond amazing and I dare you to do the same.

If you don't like FR's sound or feel... fine. But saying they are crap is just plain stupid. I again dare you to dive bomb with a normal strat tremolo and then say FR's are crap compared to them.

Petrucci used FR's from 89 to 98 and since 99 he has used only his Music Man bridges on his Music Man guitars. So if you check him be aware.
 
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OK EVH does suck to day and the past few years yes. But he has done in the early years of Van Halen is nothing short of amazing and earned him the title Greatest Guitarist Ever (by some) even to this day and for the prime of his career and playing I think he truly was that.

If you honestly think that Vai and/or Satch are crap you should listen to their music (cause you obviously haven't) And then you should learn what a guitar actually is (it's a stringed instrument with which people make music) and then learn how to play it. And maybe then you might realize that what Vai and Satch are doing is almost beyond amazing and I dare you to do the same.

If you don't like FR's sound or feel... fine. But saying they are crap is just plain stupid. I again dare you to dive bomb with a normal strat tremolo and then say FR's are crap compared to them.

Petrucci used FR's from 89 to 98 and since 99 he has used only his Music Man bridges on his Music Man guitars. So if you check him be aware.

I don't think EVH sucks today....Why do you think that?
 
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I don't think EVH sucks today....Why do you think that?

Well he doesn't completely suck today. The new album wasn't great it wasn't bad. He hasn't done anything signifigant pretty much after the heyday of Van Halen. Back then he was absolutely brilliant. If you compare that to the little he has done now, the recent things aren't even a whisper in wind. And all the drug use and the fact that he keep changing guitar brands suck pretty bad in my book. Yes he has improved his condition lately though. Is he drug-free or alcohol-free, I don't know but he has alot to catch up if he is to become even close to the same EVH he used to be.
 
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Well he doesn't completely suck today. The new album wasn't great it wasn't bad. He hasn't done anything signifigant pretty much after the heyday of Van Halen. Back then he was absolutely brilliant. If you compare that to the little he has done now, the recent things aren't even a whisper in wind. And all the drug use and the fact that he keep changing guitar brands suck pretty bad in my book. Yes he has improved his condition lately though. Is he drug-free or alcohol-free, I don't know but he has alot to catch up if he is to become even close to the same EVH he used to be.

Eddie still rips even though he's pushing 60....I don't totally agree with you,but tht's ok..
 
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Eddie still rips even though he's pushing 60....I don't totally agree with you,but tht's ok..

Oh he probably still plays better than most of us youngsters. But if you have the new album and with the deluxe edition came this dvd of few songs played live acoustically. I mean I respect Eddie for what he has done but those three songs actually sucked pretty bad. It's just what some of us want to expect from him knowing what has been able to do.

And the age is another excuse. As I don't think Eddie isn't an Übertechnical guitarist (still more of a feeling type) so his playing style/technique should more likely stay in shape longer than maybe Vai's.
 
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Oh he probably still plays better than most of us youngsters. But if you have the new album and with the deluxe edition came this dvd of few songs played live acoustically. I mean I respect Eddie for what he has done but those three songs actually sucked pretty bad. It's just what some of us want to expect from him knowing what has been able to do.

And the age is another excuse. As I don't think Eddie isn't an Übertechnical guitarist (still more of a feeling type) so his playing style/technique should more likely stay in shape longer than maybe Vai's.

He's matured and doesn't need to prove anything or showoff these days! Still a great player of both feel and technique...The new release doesn't exactly wow me either,but it's mostly DLR I don't care for as far as his voice in some stuff,but he's the voice of that band! My opinion only.. ;o)
 
Being lefty though sucks! I hate selling stuff as it's hard to replace! Are you familiar with the Fralin SP43? Killer strat bridge pickup...Lew sold it to me..Thought about sticking it into one of the strats I use alot...Still quacks,but also grinds like a nice P90...

I Like the vintage bridge to float off the body about 3/32" or so..Mainly I use finger vibrato as I'm basically a blues player..When I do use the vibrato,I use it subtle to shake multiple notes or whole chords...

Not familiar with Fralins at all. Sounds cool though.

If you don't play it, why keep it? Sentimental reasons?
 
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Not familiar with Fralins at all. Sounds cool though.

If you don't play it, why keep it? Sentimental reasons?

Yeah Erik...My first really nice strat that I bought new...I had others in the past,but not like saving up for the new one on layaway.... ;o) Since lefty stuff is hard to come by,and I'm not hurting for money,best just to hang onto it(for now anyway)..

Some of the Fralin stuff is great...Lew turned me onto this particular model and it's a really cool pickup...

Check it out

http://www.fralinpickups.com/stratstyleSP43.asp
 
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Orpheo, you can get a Floyd trem bar with a hex key built in. Anybody try out Babicz Full Contact trems? I'm kicking the idea around. My Floyd Strat has 2 PG's in it, and a big brass trem block.
 
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I have come to the conclusion that its just not worth it

-break a string guitar is ****ed
-hassle setting it up
-hassle intonating the damn thing
-thins the guitars tone since a lot of wood has been gutted form the guitar
-severely brightens the guitars sound
-kills sustain
-looks ugly
-used as a crutch for people who cant really play guitar


I am personally done with them.

Talentless weasel that you are, you only imagine it's a crutch for those who can't really play, and not just another tool in the toolbox for a talented artist to use effectively.


As well, your lack of education on the item in question is appalling. The bridge, springs, and spring claw typically weigh more than the amount of wood that has been removed. This means it adds more mass than the guitar had originally, and mass has always added sustain. It will continue to do so. Simply having a hole in something does not equate to a loss of resonance, as is the common myth among the under-educated.


Setting up and intonating a Floyd Rose double-locking tremolo takes talent. If you can't, you don't have any.


Yes, because it's a floater, if you break a string, the rest go sharp. Don't break strings. This goes back to having talent. It also includes having the responsibility to keep your guitar in good shape, including fresh strings. This involves getting a job, since you don't make enough money playing music to do that. This also goes back to a lack of talent.


Given the fact you've clamped the strings between two pieces of hardened steel (the nut and the saddle), yes, the tone gets brighter. This is what those knobs marked "EQ" are for on your amp. They go down as well as up.


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.


If you're experiencing a measureable loss of sustain, you're doing something wrong. By the same token, of you need a note to sustain for more than one measure of any given passage in a song, you need some of those "crutches" that talented multi-millionaires like The Edge and David Gilmour and Phil Collen use, like a Feedback/Sustainer unit, or maybe more talent.
 
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I hated my FR. I respect those who can use it effectively though. I can't I had a **** time setting it up, and I own only a couple guitars so when I want to drop tune it, I have to set the damn thing back up. I can dive bomb just fine on a Bigsby (I use it a little more rigorously than factory says), and Floyds kind of look bad in my opinion. I hate most tremolos (blocked my 2 strats, and had a FR once), but the Bigsby is pretty good. They aren't worth it for my style of playing (mostly rhythm with some melodic lead thrown in).
 
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