Floyd Rose vs Fender vs Bigsby

[Zerberus]

Re: Floyd Rose vs Fender vs Bigsby

That´s an argument, the "reverb" from the springs, true. 12 years as a luthier and something as obvious as that slips my mind :smack:

I just am really starting to hate these "Cure all your trem troubles, BLOCK IT!" posts. It just so often seems that all of these people think" It´s best for me, so it´s best for everyone". And as we know, I just don´t take well to people acting like their words are gospel

 

[Jag513]

Re: Floyd Rose vs Fender vs Bigsby

I'm going to go out on a limb here: Stetsbar!

The Stetsbar Trem is easily the best trem I've ever played. Not enough sustain loss to be really noticeable, you still have all the wood, and it has incredible range and feel. While Floyd Rose's sound pretty good, the restringing's a bitch, I can hear noticeable sustain loss, and I don't want a Speedloader, because I'd have to pay $10 for a set of strings. Fender trems sound good, but don't stay in tune well enough. Bigsby trems are just horrible, IMO.

 

[skh515]

Re: Floyd Rose vs Fender vs Bigsby

What a lot of you trem haters will some day learn: Just becaue YOU like it better doesn´t mean it´s so, just for you it is.

I don't use the trem because I never got the hang of it. That doesn't make me a "Trem Hater." I'm just not a trem user. Some of the best players in the world don't/didn't use trem; Clapton, Duane Allman, D. Betts, Roy Buchanan...

And some of the best players do/did, Hendrix, Jeff Beck, SRV, Van Halen, Neil Young (shout out to Bigsby)...

The lists are endless. It's not a right or wrong/good or bad thing. Every player has there own personality.

Totally blocking it as some recommend is Total BS, buy a freakin Hardtail.

Not all Strats are available as hardtails, unfortunately. When was the last time you saw a hardtail 50s Reissue? I saw one in a catalog once, but by the time I got around to buying one, they were no longer in production. So I have no choice but to block my trems.

 

[Hot _Grits]

Re: Floyd Rose vs Fender vs Bigsby

You do get used to the hassle, but its still a bitch.

However to the tone statement, I strongly disagree.
It is a different tone, I dont care about statements like 'loss of sustain' and ****e like that, I like the tone of my trem-guitar.
If someone were to mess with my wolfie and put a normal trem in it, claiming it gives it more sustain and better tone. I'd castrate them.

My opinions come from years of hanging out with repair guys. I'm old enough to have been hanging around guitar shops as a kid when the 80s floyd boom was in full swing, and I saw a lot of before/after cases of what converting to a floyd did to a lot of guitars. In almost all cases, there was a tonal compromise.

But, in the end, if a guitar comes stock with a floyd, and is set up well, then that should be considered the 'natural' state of that guitar. Stock floyd guitars should be used by people who really need a floyd, and compared to other floyd equipped guitars.

The wilkinson is also nice, though I prefer the deluxe two pivot gotoh trem used by anderson and suhr. Fender make a couple of nice two pivot designs, including a locking, floyd licensed one.

 

[Benjy_26]

Re: Floyd Rose vs Fender vs Bigsby

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Not all Strats are available as hardtails, unfortunately. When was the last time you saw a hardtail 50s Reissue? I saw one in a catalog once, but by the time I got around to buying one, they were no longer in production. So I have no choice but to block my trems.

Robert Cray Sig model. It's not an Am STD, but it's pretty nice. :burnout:

 

[skh515]

Re: Floyd Rose vs Fender vs Bigsby

Yeah, but I think the Robert Cray model is closer to a 60s RI. But he is a good addition to the non-trem artist list.