Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

mig50

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hey guys.

a week from today i am flying to australia to play a show. the closer the date gets, the more nervous i get about the thought of packing up and checking my guitar for the flights (short flight to LA, loooooong flight to AUS). i really think i'm just being paranoid, but my guitar is pretty unique and would be very hard to replace if something happened, and getting prepped using another guitar won't be so easy since i've been spent the last few months getting accustomed to my #1.

i'm looking for some advice / experiences from those who have flown internationally with their guitars before. any pitfalls to avoid or helpful tips will be most beneficial and should help to boost my confidence in this matter.

here are the options i've come up with so far; please give me some opinions or better ideas:

1. gig bag / carry-on
for domestic flights, i've always just put my guitar in a gig bag and put it in an overhead bin. i think i've been lucky in that i've never been forced to check / gate-check it. i'm not sure if the same overhead-style bins will be available for this flight, and risking the possibility of a gate-check in nothing but a gig bag sounds like a disaster.

2. hard-case only
this is my most likely option. most everyone i know who has checked a guitar in the past / regularly checks guitars just puts them in their hard case and stuffs in some t-shirts and such to keep the guitar stabilized, cushioned, and in its place. i've got a standard gator hard case (one that i bought from a former member of my band who bought the case specifically for out-of-state / country shows) that fits my guitar pretty snugly. in addition i have some modular foam inserts from an amp flight case that could certainly be worked into the case for extra support, plus some t-shirts and whatnot to fill in any gaps.

3. hard-case packed in a box
i've considered taking the extra-stabilization steps listed above within my case, then packing the case into a cardboard box full of foam / packing peanuts / what-have-you. this would require finding a box large enough to accomodate, as well as taking the extra time and effort to get everything packed up (and removed for the show, and packed up again in a foreign land where i may not be able to get additional supplies easily). this option may actually be overkill - just typing it out even seems arduous.

4. take a beater instead
i suppose the best way to keep my guitar from getting damaged on the flight is to leave it at home. i pulled out an old mutt guitar last night that has always played well, and decided i could try taking it instead. not that i want anything to happen to it, but if it were to get damaged, i would be a lot less distressed than if my gp took a fall. the problem with this is that there are a lot of differences with this guitar (longer scale length, flatter & wider fretboard, higher action on the high notes, etc) that will take a lot of adjustment and practicing over the next week. some of these are actually good changes, but some of them could be detrimental to my playing (unless i can get used to everything really fast). i kind of hate this idea because i've really gotten familiar with my main gutiar, and i just don't think i'd have the time to get fully acclimated to something else. in addition, this guitar definitely doesn't sound as good, so i'm pretty sure i'll need to change the bridge pickup (i've got a couple lying around so its not a huge deal, but that's more time taken away from practicing) as well as change the switch and clean up some wiring issues.


again, i really think i'm just being overly-anxious about this. i'm sure the second option will be absolutely fine if i take the right precautions and make sure everything is nice and stable within the case. any input will be much appreciated.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

I just flew from MN to NY, then from NY to Warsaw, Poland then to Istanbul, Turkey and now Athens, Greece. It got crazy for me, the only people who made me gate check were sun country airlines, the other two airlines (LOT and Turkish Airlines) were real cool, they let me bring it and store it overhead! My guitar is truly not replaceable, it's the only one and will always be the only one thanks to Gibby cracking down on LP designs. I was nervous too but it's here with me and I'm happy. A couple things:

loosen the strings, you must do this, the change in pressure can really destroy your guitar if you do not

do not pack any screwdrivers or tools in with the instrument, put those in your checked bag

use a hard case only, i know it's a pain in the neck compared to a gig bag on your back, but things are unpredictable, what if the airline doesn't allow you to carry it on and store it overhead? i use the skb tsa approved 56 hardshell case for my lp-strat pictured in my avatar. this is great cuz tsa is really cool when they see you went to the trouble to make their job easier!

so, basically, it's up to the airline supervisor, some are cool and allow you to carry on and sometimes you just don't get lucky. It's unpredictable, but with a good hard case, you should have peace of mind either way!

Hope this helps!
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

A proper case is the way to go. Sure it lowers your chances of being allowed to take it as carry-on, but your guitar will not survive common baggage practice when checked in a gigbag.

I have two of these suckers (bought used). Worth every penny. Unlike a real flight case they don't damage your domestic car either.

http://www.amazon.com/SKB-Injection...6857&sr=8-1&keywords=waterproof+les+paul+case

They will protect your guitar not just against flying but also mild floods in your home, ending up in the rain and similar events.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

If the airline won't let you put it in the overhead bins, ask if they can put it where the FA's put their luggage.
 
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P.S. I would be careful with extra padding inside the case. What looks like protective padding to some looks like increased stress on the most vulnerable joints to me.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

Really the best way flat out is to buy it a proper ATA case and just check it that way its prepared for worst case scenario and will survive anything else takes a risk. Now you can call head to the airlines and confirm if you can gate check the bag and have it stored where they store like wheel chairs and baby strollers. Ive gotten lucky before and at times they have let me use the coat closets. I want to know what airlines some of you fly on as my guitars wont fit in overhead bins. But ive also came across flights that were over sold and they were looking to cut down on hand luggage and been forced to check a guitar. Got lucky that it was in a nice case and survived but it is a risk. If you are going to do this more than once and your guitar is really valuable to you then just sucking it up and investing in a proper case is the way to go.
 
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ATA /TSA certified fliught case is really the only safe option.

The other is to take something with a Bolt on neck and simply unscrew the neck. If it`s set up properly and decently manufactured, te neck will be in the exact same spot it was before, so the tone and Intonation should be unchanged. I`ve turned a strat into a faux-foldup guitar numerous times over the years ;)
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

ATA /TSA certified fliught case is really the only safe option.

The other is to take something with a Bolt on neck and simply unscrew the neck. If it`s set up properly and decently manufactured, te neck will be in the exact same spot it was before, so the tone and Intonation should be unchanged. I`ve turned a strat into a faux-foldup guitar numerous times over the years ;)

I did this once with a DK2 that I brought from China to Italy. I put the body into my checked luggage and the neck in my hand luggage. It came through just fine.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

I do #3. I've done it numerous times taking guitars to the Middle East from the UK, or when purchasing in the US and bringing back here (Riyadh). The box may get a dent or two, but the guitars and cases have never had so much a a mark on them, even after multiple hops, and the baggage handling they'll have experienced. BTW, that includes a Strat, a Tokai, a Gibson, 3 Corts, 4 PRS's, and a Yamaha acoustic.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

I've flown with a guitar a few times before. My tips:

- A hard case that fits your guitar is 100% required
- Slacken the strings (you should be able to fit your finger under the strings at the 12th fret)
- Lock the case
- Duct tape the case shut (bonus points: tape over the latches to prevent them from being knocked open)
- Put a good luggage tag on the case with your name and contact info

Checking a guitar in this condition shouldn't be a problem, as long as you give it plenty of time to acclimatize once you get off the plane.

Oh, and before you go, take plenty of photos of the guitar and the case. This will be useful if it gets lost or damaged.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

1. gig bag / carry-on
Meh, too much chance of it getting damaged despite a carry on, they might also not let you bring it as a carry on because it's too big.

2. hard-case only
NO.

3. hard-case packed in a box
Maybe, depending on how much extra padding you put in said box.

4. take a beater instead
If you really wanna.


Really though, the only option you should be considering is getting an approved flight case, not a regular hard shell case. That way, if there is ANY damage whatsoever to the guitar, the airline has got to shell out.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

Although I haven't flown Internationally with a guitar I have flown domestically with one. Its always nerve racking knowing that their could be a Gorilla tossing your guitar into the planes cargo hold!!!!! I will usually PLAN on carrying the guitar on the plane. This is pretty much left up to the crew of the aircraft. I would strongly recommend you take precautions that it may NOT make it unto the plane. That said is I will usually carry it through security and after clearing security I plan on carrying it on the plane. Call the airline ahead of time to determine the size of the overhead compartment and make sure your guitar will fit. Ask the airline what the policy is for carrying a guitar on board. Make sure you get peoples names in the event you have a problem the day of the flight. Explain to them that you are na professional musician and I will not be able to perform without your instrument. After you have done everything you can to get the instrument on board with you if they simply won't let you on board with it you do have an option of buying a ticket for the guitar. If that is not feasible try these options....

http://truefire.com/blog/guitar-lessons/tips-for-flying-with-a-guitar/

http://www.fender.com/news/flying-with-your-guitar/

More infoo here: http://www.guitarplanet.eu/travelling-with-your-guitar.html

And this is mainly highlighting what I recommended..... http://spinme.com/2006/08/how-to-ge...any-other-musical-instrument-for-that-matter/

GOOD LUCK!!!!
 
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Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

After seeing how carry-on luggage gets squashed and thrown around on a busy flight, I honestly feel like the checked baggage hold is the better option.

When you check in, you can ask the airline to mark it for special handling. That will at least ensure it doesn't come sliding down the baggage carousel ramp with a mountain of heavy suitcases behind it (at most airports you pick up special items at a desk in the baggage claim area).
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

I'd recommend you insure it and don't fly United Airlines to LA.



Ratherdashing has it spot on though. Or you could always get big and fly private. ;)
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

There's also some misinformation here about what damages the guitars.

Just throwing around doesn't do it, generally, unless it is a angled headstock that can touch the case (see other thread).

The pictures of destroyed guitars from the last years all show instruments that got hung up in some form of machinery ending up with huge lever forces on the neck. Or direct impact splitting the case open. Or rolled over by a vehicle.

So the most important part is a bend-resistant case.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

Just keep in mind that when reaching cruising altitude between 35,000 feet and 40,000 feet, the cargo hold will drop to >70 degrees below zero within about 30 minutes, and your instrument will stay that way for 9-12+ hours, then the temperature will rise to the local temperature in under an hour on the other end. So whatever that does to a finish and wood is what you are in for.

My understanding is that, because metal and wood freeze at different rates, you don't want anything under tension. Wood and finishes also freeze at different rates, so you don't want a nice finish to go to 70 below rapidly or there is significant risk of finish-checking as the finish contracts, pulling away from the wood and cracking.

I've always carried my instruments on board, so I can't speak to the actual damage that might occur, however.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

Coming down to visit us eh??

Not really warm right now, unless your gig is in Darwin.

Let the airline know you're traveling with an instrument is #1....The travel agent/booking agent needs to put a note on the ticket. I've seen a band stuck in an airport before because they hadn't let the airline know and there were 'issues'
Flight case - absolutely essential if its going in the hold. You know those big metal things with heaps of padding.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

Hard-case only and always.

I travel a lot internationally and only use hard cases.
 
Re: Flying Internationally with Your Guitar

thanks for the replies everyone! i used my paranoia / concern about flying with my gp to buy another guitar, haha! i found a great deal on a gibson gothic sg (a guitar i've wanted for a very long time), so i decided to just go for it. i definitely don't want anything bad to happen to it either, but if something does, its a whole lot more replaceable than my ovation.

i'm going to call qantas today to look into possible options for getting the guitar in an overhead compartment. i'll hard-case it to be safe and definitely follow the tips in this thread. thanks again, everyon!

So, where's the gig in OZ?

melbourne. playing at this:

http://aus.paxsite.com/
 
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