for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
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Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
Yep I have a pair that I want to try in an EL-34 equipped amp I am testing
Yep I have a pair that I want to try in an EL-34 equipped amp I am testing
Curly
Moe's Bluesman
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
cool ....
since the KT 77 is described as fat and linear, it sounds like it's similar in relation to an EL 34 as a KT 66 is to a 6L6. There was some talk of JJ also developing a KT 66 about a year or so ago, so I have some hopes they'll produce one some day.
Supposedly, they were leaning toward a small bottle version, which maybe wouldn't look as cool, but would fit in more amps.
cool ....
since the KT 77 is described as fat and linear, it sounds like it's similar in relation to an EL 34 as a KT 66 is to a 6L6. There was some talk of JJ also developing a KT 66 about a year or so ago, so I have some hopes they'll produce one some day.
Supposedly, they were leaning toward a small bottle version, which maybe wouldn't look as cool, but would fit in more amps.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
Yes it is the "HIFI" version of the EL-34, same as the KT-66's.
I love the clear and fatter sound of those type of tubes
Yes it is the "HIFI" version of the EL-34, same as the KT-66's.
I love the clear and fatter sound of those type of tubes
PUCKBOY99
Irish Flagologist
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
I thought KT-88s were to EL34s what KT-66s are to 6L6s??? :dunno:
Is the KT-77 gonna meet ya' half way between the 34 & the 88 ??? (increase the headroom, but still able to get some breakup?)
.............and where would 6CA7s fit in??????
I thought KT-88s were to EL34s what KT-66s are to 6L6s??? :dunno:
Is the KT-77 gonna meet ya' half way between the 34 & the 88 ??? (increase the headroom, but still able to get some breakup?)
.............and where would 6CA7s fit in??????
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
Nope....The 6CA7 is the American numbering of the EL34 and normally a larger bottled tube almost the size of a 6l6....
The KT88 is more on the lines of a 6550 in size and what it can handle..
KT stands for Kinkless Tetrode...
PUCKBOY99 said:
Nope....The 6CA7 is the American numbering of the EL34 and normally a larger bottled tube almost the size of a 6l6....
The KT88 is more on the lines of a 6550 in size and what it can handle..
KT stands for Kinkless Tetrode...
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
You're very welcome....I've tryed KT tubes in my Marshall and 6L6s and EL34s are the Marshall tone for me and the only tubes I'll use in mine! Every other tube screws up the mids and the compressed growl and honk you get with EL34s.....Things start getting to round and Fendery with these other tubes..If I want Fendery,I play through my Fender amps...LOL
When I Play through a Marshall I expect it to growl,cut,and have a tight agressive tone unlike anything else(Other than the modern copies)...I'm also speaking about the early Marshalls(The real ones and void of all the extra crap they place in the simple circuit)
PUCKBOY99 said:
You're very welcome....I've tryed KT tubes in my Marshall and 6L6s and EL34s are the Marshall tone for me and the only tubes I'll use in mine! Every other tube screws up the mids and the compressed growl and honk you get with EL34s.....Things start getting to round and Fendery with these other tubes..If I want Fendery,I play through my Fender amps...LOL
When I Play through a Marshall I expect it to growl,cut,and have a tight agressive tone unlike anything else(Other than the modern copies)...I'm also speaking about the early Marshalls(The real ones and void of all the extra crap they place in the simple circuit)
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PUCKBOY99
Irish Flagologist
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
Well, I've got one of Scott's Celtic Edanas which is basically a JTM45. The KT-66s sound fantastic in it in "SWEET" mode & get a nice bit of bite in either "BITCH" mode or with the channels jumpered.
That said, I wonder what it would sound like with EL34s & a SS rectifier????
Well, I've got one of Scott's Celtic Edanas which is basically a JTM45. The KT-66s sound fantastic in it in "SWEET" mode & get a nice bit of bite in either "BITCH" mode or with the channels jumpered.
That said, I wonder what it would sound like with EL34s & a SS rectifier????
kevlar3000
Bullet Proof Toneologist
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
Doesn't the weber copper cap have a versionjthat has no sag?
PUCKBOY99 said:Well, I've got one of Scott's Celtic Edanas which is basically a JTM45. The KT-66s sound fantastic in it in "SWEET" mode & get a nice bit of bite in either "BITCH" mode or with the channels jumpered.
That said, I wonder what it would sound like with EL34s & a SS rectifier????
Doesn't the weber copper cap have a versionjthat has no sag?
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
The JTM is basically a 59 Bassman...later Marshalls aren't and I prefer the EL34s in those amps....A 59 Bassman is all about the 6L6/5881 tubes though..
PUCKBOY99 said:Well, I've got one of Scott's Celtic Edanas which is basically a JTM45. The KT-66s sound fantastic in it in "SWEET" mode & get a nice bit of bite in either "BITCH" mode or with the channels jumpered.
That said, I wonder what it would sound like with EL34s & a SS rectifier????
The JTM is basically a 59 Bassman...later Marshalls aren't and I prefer the EL34s in those amps....A 59 Bassman is all about the 6L6/5881 tubes though..
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
To me the 1959,1987,2203,and 2204 amps are all about EL34s to get the best grind from these amps...But no harm in trying whatever might work.
Xeromus said:
To me the 1959,1987,2203,and 2204 amps are all about EL34s to get the best grind from these amps...But no harm in trying whatever might work.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
Dunno a Park 75 has some good Marshall bite too
And that thing has a pair of big KT-88's.
Dunno a Park 75 has some good Marshall bite too
And that thing has a pair of big KT-88's.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
Let's just say this is all too subjective....Some guys love Boogies and others love Marshalls>.......:wave:
Rid said:Dunno a Park 75 has some good Marshall bite too
And that thing has a pair of big KT-88's.
Let's just say this is all too subjective....Some guys love Boogies and others love Marshalls>.......:wave:
Curly
Moe's Bluesman
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
uh ... I was just passing along some info.
I don't have an EL 34 amp myself. I kind of think of Marshalls as sounding best with EL 34s, but there are other amps out there that use EL 34s that might benefit from extended low end and a linear response.
choices are often a good thing with tube amps
as far as Marshalls are concerned, I don't really know what the best current production tube is, or if there even are any that are anywhere nearly close to some of the good old ones.
uh ... I was just passing along some info.
I don't have an EL 34 amp myself. I kind of think of Marshalls as sounding best with EL 34s, but there are other amps out there that use EL 34s that might benefit from extended low end and a linear response.
choices are often a good thing with tube amps
as far as Marshalls are concerned, I don't really know what the best current production tube is, or if there even are any that are anywhere nearly close to some of the good old ones.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
And I say......It's all good buddy..I own several amps so I don't get tired of 1 tone...
Curly said:uh ... I was just passing along some info.
I don't have an EL 34 amp myself. I kind of think of Marshalls as sounding best with EL 34s, but there are other amps out there that use EL 34s that might benefit from extended low end and a linear response.
choices are often a good thing with tube amps
as far as Marshalls are concerned, I don't really know what the best current production tube is, or if there even are any that are anywhere nearly close to some of the good old ones.
And I say......It's all good buddy..I own several amps so I don't get tired of 1 tone...
Lake Placid Blues
New member
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
I had the privilege of playing an original 65 block logo JTM45 once. It was loaded with GEC KT66's, and run through a vintage Marshall 4x12 it sounded very "Marshally". No mistaking it for a big Fender. Much of the early Hendrix stuff was KT66 loaded Marshalls, as is most of the AC/DC stuff. The early EVH brown sound was a Sylvania 6CA7 loaded plexi. Having said that, I do believe you get a more "snarly" and throaty mids overdrive from standard EL34's, compared to any other tube. Just last night I was really getting a kick out of the unique EL34 breakup.
I had the privilege of playing an original 65 block logo JTM45 once. It was loaded with GEC KT66's, and run through a vintage Marshall 4x12 it sounded very "Marshally". No mistaking it for a big Fender. Much of the early Hendrix stuff was KT66 loaded Marshalls, as is most of the AC/DC stuff. The early EVH brown sound was a Sylvania 6CA7 loaded plexi. Having said that, I do believe you get a more "snarly" and throaty mids overdrive from standard EL34's, compared to any other tube. Just last night I was really getting a kick out of the unique EL34 breakup.
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: for those Marshall or other/ EL 34 users
I've read different schools and opinions about the Hendrix amps....6550s get mentioned also....His amps were clean,warm,and round sounding,plus he used BF Fender stuff quite a bit in the studio and in early days on the road...
It's hard to trust what others say about these types of things unless you were behind the guy's amp or was buds with his actual amp tech...The whole EVH thing is even more of a joke,though I do agree about the large bottled 6CA7s in his amp...Nothing against your post,but alot of this stuff is just pure speculation and BS also..
Lake Placid Blues said:
I've read different schools and opinions about the Hendrix amps....6550s get mentioned also....His amps were clean,warm,and round sounding,plus he used BF Fender stuff quite a bit in the studio and in early days on the road...
It's hard to trust what others say about these types of things unless you were behind the guy's amp or was buds with his actual amp tech...The whole EVH thing is even more of a joke,though I do agree about the large bottled 6CA7s in his amp...Nothing against your post,but alot of this stuff is just pure speculation and BS also..
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