For Those Who Don't Embrace New Tech (iR vs Mic'd Speakers)

Nothing really wrong with the technology but when you do amp reviews on youtube with many different amps and every demo sounds the same i have a hard time taking that person seriously especially the guy in the first post.
To me every one of his demo's sound identical.
You should give viewers different options with different cabs and move some air.
I would never do the IR thing myself.

To me, Ola Englund sounds the same on all of his amp demos.
 
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Nothing really wrong with the technology but when you do amp reviews on youtube with many different amps and every demo sounds the same i have a hard time taking that person seriously especially the guy in the first post.
To me every one of his demo's sound identical.
You should give viewers different options with different cabs and move some air.
I would never do the IR thing myself.

Its true. Everything he records sounds the same.
 
Its true. Everything he records sounds the same.

Im guessing because his generation doesn't really know any different.
in 1970 we were taught to memorize our home address & phone number in grade school i still remember it yet i have 150 numbers in my Iphone 12 and don't even know my wife's number.
 
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No IC chip is gonna sound like 4 late 70's Celestions getting spanked.

Isn't that an apples to oranges comparison? One is designed to sit in a mix, the other is live (yours).

Funny you did Black Sabbath's Voodoo!

I'd been fiddling with Iommi's 80's tone... love that tune (and others from Heaven And Hell & The Mob Rules)

 
This is an example of live sound using iRs in my rig (piped to two 1x12s)... I believe these were EV12 L iRs for this patch.

(Our drummer is a beast and hits really hard, so he's the louder one here)

 
Thanks man, knowledge is power! I would say Im above average on A/B blind tests but not this time at all!

Normally I’m pretty good with these, but this one I struggled with. I could hear the changes, but I would’ve guessed wrong. Also, the warning from the first video made me think they weren’t going to do a simple A/B and had me listening for changes that weren’t there.

Ironically, I should know better by know that the cleaner/clearer clip is usually digital and the one that’s slightly more murky is analogue, but I chose the first as the mic’d cab because it seemed to have better presence.

Personally, I think IRs are a good example of digital working well and like how they’re being hybridized into tube amp technology. It’s allowing us to disregard the part we weren’t enthused about (amp modelling) while gaining many of the volume and consistency advantages that amp modelling offered us, without needing to give up our actual tube amps.
 
I tuned up my old Digitech gear to sound as good as any Helix or Kemper.

Heck, I'm thinking of pulling my old 1970's EHX Electric Mistress Deluxe Flanger, old 70's EHX Big Muff, an old 60's Octovia pedal and an late 1968 Univibe ... and build a Robin Trower / Jimi Hendrix pedalboard :D

Old tech, is still relevant
 
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IR technology is no longer the weak link in the digital replication of guitar amplification. Now the weak link is n the modeling. Years ago, IRs were not quite there, and it was evident. Now, as can be seen, you would be hard-pressed to know if you were listening to a real cab or an IR at all. The technology and the algorithm are dialed about as far as it needs to be for IR.

As for modeling, they are close, perhaps 90% or more of the way there. I think the missing link is still in the dynamics and the way it reacts to your guitar's volume control. I can tell immediately if it is a modeler by simply rolling back the volume on the guitar. They just cannot get that right.

The problem I have with Kemper is that it is a snapshot of an amp. Sure it may sound and feel just as good as the profile it captured, but as soon as you start to go away from the parameters that the profile originally captured, it starts to fall apart. It is a way to have many amps captured in a particular setting, but not the way to have any amp you can dream of in any way you can imagine it.
 
As for modeling, they are close, perhaps 90% or more of the way there. I think the missing link is still in the dynamics and the way it reacts to your guitar's volume control. I can tell immediately if it is a modeler by simply rolling back the volume on the guitar. They just cannot get that right.

I'm going to be testing that concept in Amp Or Not
 
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