Franken Fat strat too bright! What to do.

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David, are you talking about Japanese Squiers or more recently made Squiers from China, Korea, etc? You need to qualify such a blanket statement...because you're coming off as an inexperieinced little kid.

Or are you??? :laugh2: Either way: you're flat out full of it! (As in: wrong. :laugh2: )

Some made in Japan Squiers are fabulous guitars that just need new pickups to make them as nice as most USA made Fender Strats.
 
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and fender told me to get stuffed when i told them i bought a squier and wanted it to sound better they said 200 guitar get stuffed !!!
 
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it doesnt matter if you think a 200 dolar guitar sounds like a 1959 flametop les paul then you can sing its praises all day long
 
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The only thing that is Squier on this guitar is the body. My frankenstrat has:
1) New 22 fret neck - fast
2) Top of the line fender locking tuners - Dive bomb to your hearts content
3) Electrically completely rewired with push-pull pots for coil splitting
4) Seymour Duncan JB jr in neck, DiMarzio Chopper middle, and a choice of 3 full size bridge pickups.
5) Bad wood? Alder is not bad wood

I really enjoyed building this guitar and it turned out beautiful and has turned some heads. The strat platform is an excellent base to start a project from. Is a squier strat a cheap guitar? Yes. But the possiblities for improvements are among the best out there.

Lew is a very knowledgable man and I respect him for his advise. You should do the same. He has had many successful strat projects himself and knows what he is talking about.

And by the way, my son already has a modified Epiphone Les Paul that is a very good guitar. He needs a tremolo setup as well and this platform is it. I'm just a perfectionist and want his setup to be the best it can for his style of music.
 
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its not that its bad wood it the number of wood pieces back in the day many squiers were tuned ot with laminated plywood and 100 pieces of alder is not the same as i piece of alder
 
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Mr kornblatt, there's a little button that allows you to edit your posts. Give it a try next time. ;)
 
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david kornblatt said:
its not that its bad wood it the number of wood pieces back in the day many squiers were tuned ot with laminated plywood and 100 pieces of alder is not the same as i piece of alder

This body is one piece of alder. Must not be from back in the day. With the Schaller locking tuning machines, this guitar stays in tune way better than the Les Paul even after dive bombing the crap out of it.
 
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lets assume tad gomes and abigail yaberra made your paticular squier ...how would you expect fender to make any money because i think tad is dead and abigail though she winds pickups can retire and besides they would have to ship them alive or dead to indonesia to do the work
no i stand by what i say squier = too many pieces of wood/soft bad wood
bad pickups(not wound by abigail or seymour
pieces of pot metal for harware, bad wiring , necks with necksprout and no finish, non sae meaurements or in some weird metric measurement, non regulation neck joints, bad tuners, bad pots and switches i speak from experience ive talked to seymour duncan, ken warmoth and the fender headqtrs and they say its okay but son you got ripped of and by the way i am 36 years old.
 
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panamang said:
Have built a fat strat using a squier strat body for my son but this guitar is way too bright. Problem is the tone coming from the bridge pickup. I have put the best quaility pups out there in this thing and they still sound poor (a Duncan Distortion and a DiMarzio Evolution). The same pickups sound great in our Epi Les Paul. I do have a Duncan Design Detonator (Invader) in the house and was wondering if the dark sound of that pup would help solve the problem? It's probably not the best solution out there but am hoping it might help. He plays mostly heavy metal Metallica stuff. What you guys think?


A friend had a godin with 2 buckers that had oversized ceramics. Real bright sound. Figured the winds must have been on the dark side to counteract the ceramics a bit.

I swapped out the mags for A2's and bingo. Warm ultraphat sound! Might want to try that. Only thing is if the mag is oversized than the spacers will be also. If you're real handy convert it to double screws and radius the coil closest to the neck.

Or just rotate the pup so the screw coil is closest to the neck then radius. Did this with a 59 once. Helped warm up the tone a bit by emphasizing the coil furthest from the bridge. Might look weird if the logo is on it tho.

Could try all nickel strings and experimenting with resistors to knock the pot down even further.

The Breed and Rio BBQ are pretty dark sounding pups. I have an A3 breed that I really like. Sounded really good with A5. Got mine on ebay for around 40ish. Could try that if all else fails.
 
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The Evolution is one of the most aggressive pickups in history, period. If the bridge is "floating", and NOT backed-up against the body then........oh boy. Forget it.

Just moving the Evolution to a stoptail Charvel without a Floyd was enough to change that pickup completely for me. Worked wonders. I was literally shocked once I took it out of my Ibeenhad. My Charvel still has a tremolo unit, but it's backed-up, locked against the body of the guitar. Bass & sustain, anyone???

Hetfield's tone may have been clear and crisp, but it wasn't thin & wimpy, like Vai's. Floating bridge = ditch the Evolution.
 
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