Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
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Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
If you're broke and down, and still desperately crave the "Brown", there is hope guys.
If you can handle the loud. And I mean LOUD.
And being laughed at by fellow guitarists.
The answer is..........: Bugera
Yes I said Bugera.
The 1960 Infinium model that's a straight up(with a couple extras) Marshall 1959 circuit does great old school EVH brown tone if you crank it. Crank it as in everything on 10. Maybe except the bass control. But all the others cranked. Like this:
Now at this point it's ridiculously loud, walls are shaking and your elderly neighbours dropping in cardiac arrest.
But it sounds awesome, better than the 5150 III if you want a tone similar to the old records, the 5150 is way more modern. I have them both:
Yes the Bugera is hideous.
I pulled two of the power tubes and it made the volume quite a bit more manageable, still plenty loud of course.
The amp have a bypassable PPIMV, but the best tones comes with it bypassed.
The tones are raw and naked, you can't hide anything, just like an old NMV Marshall should be. Not that much gain, less than it sounds like, and fairly hard to play.
Quite something else compared to the 5150 III, which basically plays itself.
Well enough talking, I'll let the clips do the rest.
All clips recorded with guitar-cable-amp, no pedals. No eq done in post, but reverb and delay used here and there to simulate the originals effects.
If you're broke and down, and still desperately crave the "Brown", there is hope guys.
If you can handle the loud. And I mean LOUD.
And being laughed at by fellow guitarists.
The answer is..........: Bugera
Yes I said Bugera.
The 1960 Infinium model that's a straight up(with a couple extras) Marshall 1959 circuit does great old school EVH brown tone if you crank it. Crank it as in everything on 10. Maybe except the bass control. But all the others cranked. Like this:
Now at this point it's ridiculously loud, walls are shaking and your elderly neighbours dropping in cardiac arrest.
But it sounds awesome, better than the 5150 III if you want a tone similar to the old records, the 5150 is way more modern. I have them both:
Yes the Bugera is hideous.
I pulled two of the power tubes and it made the volume quite a bit more manageable, still plenty loud of course.
The amp have a bypassable PPIMV, but the best tones comes with it bypassed.
The tones are raw and naked, you can't hide anything, just like an old NMV Marshall should be. Not that much gain, less than it sounds like, and fairly hard to play.
Quite something else compared to the 5150 III, which basically plays itself.
Well enough talking, I'll let the clips do the rest.
All clips recorded with guitar-cable-amp, no pedals. No eq done in post, but reverb and delay used here and there to simulate the originals effects.
Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
Ill check the clips after work.. as far as Bugera, Ive heard ALOT of good sounds from them and thier 5150 copy is pretty close on.. Unfortunately, I have NO way to crank an amp like that. I live in an apartment and have a guitar hating spouse.. great info tho!
Ill check the clips after work.. as far as Bugera, Ive heard ALOT of good sounds from them and thier 5150 copy is pretty close on.. Unfortunately, I have NO way to crank an amp like that. I live in an apartment and have a guitar hating spouse.. great info tho!
T
Thunder
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And I thought I was the only one with a guitar hating spouse:banghead::banghead: lol!
And I thought I was the only one with a guitar hating spouse:banghead::banghead: lol!
Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
No Bro. She'd rather me take on the mark of the beast, watch me have my limbs chopped off and see me ground up in a meat grinder while still concious, than for me to enjoy guitar.
I didnt have one for like 11 years after we married.
No Bro. She'd rather me take on the mark of the beast, watch me have my limbs chopped off and see me ground up in a meat grinder while still concious, than for me to enjoy guitar.
I didnt have one for like 11 years after we married.
Reload in 5
Just Ultimate Slacker
Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
prolly be better without the backing crap/original in the background
Just guitar
So did anyone get to sneak away from the witches and listen to the Bugera clips?
prolly be better without the backing crap/original in the background
Just guitar
Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
I prefer to present clips in a somewhat musical context....
I prefer to present clips in a somewhat musical context....
Reload in 5
Just Ultimate Slacker
Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
fair, it makes the context
but, it is easier to listen to the guitar tone when it is solo. Just post both the solo track and the mix.
fair, it makes the context
but, it is easier to listen to the guitar tone when it is solo. Just post both the solo track and the mix.
Stratovarious
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Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
That Bugera sounds absolutely awesome! Jeez!
What guitar is being played ?
That Bugera sounds absolutely awesome! Jeez!
What guitar is being played ?
Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
The guitar is a 83' Kramer Pacer with a custom wound pickup from JS Moore. The pickup is similar to the 59/Custom Hybrid.
The guitar is a 83' Kramer Pacer with a custom wound pickup from JS Moore. The pickup is similar to the 59/Custom Hybrid.
Andrew Lamprecht
Minion of One
T
Thunder
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Hmmm... seems my replies are not being saved... I answered before that when I got married I had Kramer Focus V and an amazing Charvel 3dr. Candy apple red, humbucker and slant single coil and the first upside down headstock in jacksonville. I got married, and we got into money issues, gear got pawned . Then came kids and getting gear was lowest possible priority to her. So, I didnt have a guit for 11 years til I hoarded $130 bux aside from my night job and bought a Squier strat
Hmmm... seems my replies are not being saved... I answered before that when I got married I had Kramer Focus V and an amazing Charvel 3dr. Candy apple red, humbucker and slant single coil and the first upside down headstock in jacksonville. I got married, and we got into money issues, gear got pawned . Then came kids and getting gear was lowest possible priority to her. So, I didnt have a guit for 11 years til I hoarded $130 bux aside from my night job and bought a Squier strat
Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
The cab is a EVH 2x12" with G12H 70th anniversary speakers. Mic is a Sennheiser e906
The cab is a EVH 2x12" with G12H 70th anniversary speakers. Mic is a Sennheiser e906
DankStar
Her Little Mojo Minion
Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
sick clips blix! how do you mic an amp that's cranked like that without having it go nuts on the mic and/or mic preamp/mixer/interface? I mean, you wouldn't even be able to hear the drums and bass through headphones if you were anywhere near it could you?
sick clips blix! how do you mic an amp that's cranked like that without having it go nuts on the mic and/or mic preamp/mixer/interface? I mean, you wouldn't even be able to hear the drums and bass through headphones if you were anywhere near it could you?
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Re: Friedman amps and other "brown" clones.
The mic and preamp/interface handles it without any problems at all. Monitoring is an issue though, being in the same room. I put some blankets over the cab and sits close to my stereo speakers cranked too.
The mic and preamp/interface handles it without any problems at all. Monitoring is an issue though, being in the same room. I put some blankets over the cab and sits close to my stereo speakers cranked too.
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