Young Angus
Kometose Tonologist
I want a really top notch wah pedal, and have sorta narrowed it down to one of these...but i dont know enough about either to make a decision yet.
What do you guys think??
What do you guys think??
Fulltone or teese wah?
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That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
I'm in the same boat... I'm torn between the Teese Picture wah and Fulltone Clyde (not the new Deluxe).
I'm in the same boat... I'm torn between the Teese Picture wah and Fulltone Clyde (not the new Deluxe).
54stratlover
New member
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
I A/B'd the fulltone deluxe and the Teese picture. I would have to go with the Teese, there was something a little more open about the tone. The Fulltone had a slight tough of grainyness to the midrange or middle of the sweep. they were very close and you wouldn't go wrong with either. I am planning of getting the teese, actually maybe 2 of them :laugh2:
I A/B'd the fulltone deluxe and the Teese picture. I would have to go with the Teese, there was something a little more open about the tone. The Fulltone had a slight tough of grainyness to the midrange or middle of the sweep. they were very close and you wouldn't go wrong with either. I am planning of getting the teese, actually maybe 2 of them :laugh2:
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
I bought the Teese Picture Wah and paid $245 for it...Honest to God,my own modded vox 847 sounded better than the Teese,so I returned it...Get yourself a used 847 and let me mod it...All you need is the Fulltone inductor and pot and then it becomes magical after my tweaks to the board..My 847 is very vocal and has a very clear tone with alot of range from highs to lows.....Believe this...If the Teese was "The Wah" I wouldn't have returned it..I'm serious...Lew and Curly both have vintage wahs on the way to me..You may want to wait on their reviews and save yourself some cash?
I'll be doing true bypass,a power supply,fulltone pot and inductor and key board tweaks to Curly's 847 this week...I need to try to get some clips up of my 847 because it really sounds great!
Also read Bludave's post about the CryBaby I modded for him...
John
54stratlover said:
I bought the Teese Picture Wah and paid $245 for it...Honest to God,my own modded vox 847 sounded better than the Teese,so I returned it...Get yourself a used 847 and let me mod it...All you need is the Fulltone inductor and pot and then it becomes magical after my tweaks to the board..My 847 is very vocal and has a very clear tone with alot of range from highs to lows.....Believe this...If the Teese was "The Wah" I wouldn't have returned it..I'm serious...Lew and Curly both have vintage wahs on the way to me..You may want to wait on their reviews and save yourself some cash?
I'll be doing true bypass,a power supply,fulltone pot and inductor and key board tweaks to Curly's 847 this week...I need to try to get some clips up of my 847 because it really sounds great!
Also read Bludave's post about the CryBaby I modded for him...
John
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Lewguitar
Guest
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
I think you'd be happy with the Tesse or the Fulltone, tho I haven't heard the Teese...only Curly's constant raving about how great the Teese is! LOL!
I own the Fulltone Clyde Deluxe and there is nothing grainy about the midrange, IMO. It's the absolute finest wah wah I have ever owned...and I 've owned a bunch of them! (including an original Vox Clyde McCoy model that I purchased as soon as they were available in the USA, back in the 60's)
All that said, I've just packed up and shipped John my two Crybaby's to have them modded with Fulltone parts and tweaked by John...so obviously I think that's a good way to go too!
I think you'd be happy with the Tesse or the Fulltone, tho I haven't heard the Teese...only Curly's constant raving about how great the Teese is! LOL!
I own the Fulltone Clyde Deluxe and there is nothing grainy about the midrange, IMO. It's the absolute finest wah wah I have ever owned...and I 've owned a bunch of them! (including an original Vox Clyde McCoy model that I purchased as soon as they were available in the USA, back in the 60's)
All that said, I've just packed up and shipped John my two Crybaby's to have them modded with Fulltone parts and tweaked by John...so obviously I think that's a good way to go too!
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
Lew....I'm normally pretty modest,but honest to God,my Vox 847 sounded better in the mids than the $245 Teese Picture Wah! Money wasn't the problem in buying the Teese...I really thought this wah was going to be the end all on my wah quest....I spent an entire week studying wah circuits and tweaking caps and resistor values to see it's effect on my own wah...My 847 has alot of tonal range,is very vocal,and it has a real nice smooth sweep from lows to highs and isn't harsh in the full toe down positions...The Teese wahs mids were pulled back too much...I've found that it's a combination of the right caps, transistors,the inductor,pot and bringing the mids out more...This is where the wah gets it's vocal,crying ability...I've messed with not only cap values,but cap material also...I went a step further and got my hands on some actual Tropical Fish caps and original polystyrene caps for my own 2 wahs,just like the caps used in the 67 Clyde.These mods are only going to end up in my own pedals though because the caps are expensive!..I now own a very good sounding 847 and a reissue Clyde McCoy Vox 848 will be here Tuesday....This 848 has the Fasel inductor,but my 847 has the copy of the original Clyde's "Halo" inductor...The combination of all these things is what makes the wah really sound right...My 847 is right there now with the vintage Hendrix,Trower,Clapton,and Beck tones...I don't normally stick my neck out,but my wah sounds fantastic and is modernized with true bypass,power supply,and is quiet to boot...
I just bought an old 70s non-working CryBaby off E Bay that I'll also rework and sell to one lucky forum member soon....
I've learned alot more about wahs and I've carefully studied alot of pictures of early circuit boards from the Clydes,Italy 846,Crybaby,Jen etc....And quite a few of Teese's boards....I'm really on to something now with the wah mods..
Check out that original 67 Clyde board again and notice the Tropical Fish and polystyrene caps...Some of these wahs had Carbon Comp resistors,but alot of them used carbon film also...Guess they used whatever they had? Some had a combination of both...
http://fuzzcentral.tripod.com/mckoy/image2.html
John
Lewguitar said:
Lew....I'm normally pretty modest,but honest to God,my Vox 847 sounded better in the mids than the $245 Teese Picture Wah! Money wasn't the problem in buying the Teese...I really thought this wah was going to be the end all on my wah quest....I spent an entire week studying wah circuits and tweaking caps and resistor values to see it's effect on my own wah...My 847 has alot of tonal range,is very vocal,and it has a real nice smooth sweep from lows to highs and isn't harsh in the full toe down positions...The Teese wahs mids were pulled back too much...I've found that it's a combination of the right caps, transistors,the inductor,pot and bringing the mids out more...This is where the wah gets it's vocal,crying ability...I've messed with not only cap values,but cap material also...I went a step further and got my hands on some actual Tropical Fish caps and original polystyrene caps for my own 2 wahs,just like the caps used in the 67 Clyde.These mods are only going to end up in my own pedals though because the caps are expensive!..I now own a very good sounding 847 and a reissue Clyde McCoy Vox 848 will be here Tuesday....This 848 has the Fasel inductor,but my 847 has the copy of the original Clyde's "Halo" inductor...The combination of all these things is what makes the wah really sound right...My 847 is right there now with the vintage Hendrix,Trower,Clapton,and Beck tones...I don't normally stick my neck out,but my wah sounds fantastic and is modernized with true bypass,power supply,and is quiet to boot...
I just bought an old 70s non-working CryBaby off E Bay that I'll also rework and sell to one lucky forum member soon....
I've learned alot more about wahs and I've carefully studied alot of pictures of early circuit boards from the Clydes,Italy 846,Crybaby,Jen etc....And quite a few of Teese's boards....I'm really on to something now with the wah mods..
Check out that original 67 Clyde board again and notice the Tropical Fish and polystyrene caps...Some of these wahs had Carbon Comp resistors,but alot of them used carbon film also...Guess they used whatever they had? Some had a combination of both...
http://fuzzcentral.tripod.com/mckoy/image2.html
John
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STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
I Just did Bludave's early Crybaby and it sounds great...If you've bought both the pot and inductor from Mike Fuller and I tweak the boards.....Oh man are you going to really love your wahs buddy....You'll see... :dance:
Curly requested that I use all Carbon Comp resistors within the 847 he's sending me,but to be quite honest,I think the metal films are the way to go...The CC I don't feel add better tone,but they do add more hiss to the circuit and are unstable...The metal films are 1% accurate and take all noise out of a circuit...I'll A/B my 847 to Curly's and see if there is a difference? Curly's pedal will be identical to my own 847....My 848 reissue Clyde is going to have all of the exact and original components,caps etc..as the original 67 Clyde when it's done...The 848 is great,as it comes with true bypass and a power supply...I Payed $100 for my 848...
Lewguitar said:
I Just did Bludave's early Crybaby and it sounds great...If you've bought both the pot and inductor from Mike Fuller and I tweak the boards.....Oh man are you going to really love your wahs buddy....You'll see... :dance:
Curly requested that I use all Carbon Comp resistors within the 847 he's sending me,but to be quite honest,I think the metal films are the way to go...The CC I don't feel add better tone,but they do add more hiss to the circuit and are unstable...The metal films are 1% accurate and take all noise out of a circuit...I'll A/B my 847 to Curly's and see if there is a difference? Curly's pedal will be identical to my own 847....My 848 reissue Clyde is going to have all of the exact and original components,caps etc..as the original 67 Clyde when it's done...The 848 is great,as it comes with true bypass and a power supply...I Payed $100 for my 848...
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That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
I think you've got a good thing going on John and because of that, I want to purchase one myself! Honestly, I'm not so sure carbon resistors are that great. They're cheaper than metal films and for a good reason. Their tolerance levels are greater and they are apt to lose their strength over time. Metal film are much more stable and it's smart that John is designing his own circuit with metal film, atleast he'll know that each time he does that exact mod he'll get the same exact results.
All in all, John, please PM me
I think you've got a good thing going on John and because of that, I want to purchase one myself! Honestly, I'm not so sure carbon resistors are that great. They're cheaper than metal films and for a good reason. Their tolerance levels are greater and they are apt to lose their strength over time. Metal film are much more stable and it's smart that John is designing his own circuit with metal film, atleast he'll know that each time he does that exact mod he'll get the same exact results.
All in all, John, please PM me
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
Hello buddy...If you're going to pickup a wah,get yourself a used Vox 847...That's what I Use..They look great,sound great,and are very plentiful...I Like the feel of the treadle on the 847 over the stiffer CryBaby's feel...If you can pickup the even better Clyde Vox reissue 848,you'll then already have true bypass,power supply,and the Fasel inductor...A Used 847 can be bought around the $60 to $70 range...The 848 is going to be $100 and up..
John
the_Chris said:I think you've got a good thing going on John and because of that, I want to purchase one myself! Honestly, I'm not so sure carbon resistors are that great. They're cheaper than metal films and for a good reason. Their tolerance levels are greater and they are apt to lose their strength over time. Metal film are much more stable and it's smart that John is designing his own circuit with metal film, atleast he'll know that each time he does that exact mod he'll get the same exact results.
All in all, John, please PM me
Hello buddy...If you're going to pickup a wah,get yourself a used Vox 847...That's what I Use..They look great,sound great,and are very plentiful...I Like the feel of the treadle on the 847 over the stiffer CryBaby's feel...If you can pickup the even better Clyde Vox reissue 848,you'll then already have true bypass,power supply,and the Fasel inductor...A Used 847 can be bought around the $60 to $70 range...The 848 is going to be $100 and up..
John
Young Angus
Kometose Tonologist
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
That all sounds great, ill definitely think about that seriously before shelling out for a fulltone...although knowing me in the end ill want both
That all sounds great, ill definitely think about that seriously before shelling out for a fulltone...although knowing me in the end ill want both
STRATDELUXER97
Stratoblaster Tone Meister
Re: Fulltone or teese wah?
I returned my so called "Best wah in the world" Teese Picture Wah...I payed $245 for it and returned in 2 days later after I ended up liking my own modded Vox 847 wah better...Trust me when I tell you that if the Teese was a little better than my 847,I'd have kept the Teese...I turned around and bought a Clyde McCoy Vox reissue and fulltone parts...I'll now have to great Vox wahs that I Modded..I always trust my own ears...Every time... :13:
John
Young Angus said:That all sounds great, ill definitely think about that seriously before shelling out for a fulltone...although knowing me in the end ill want both
I returned my so called "Best wah in the world" Teese Picture Wah...I payed $245 for it and returned in 2 days later after I ended up liking my own modded Vox 847 wah better...Trust me when I tell you that if the Teese was a little better than my 847,I'd have kept the Teese...I turned around and bought a Clyde McCoy Vox reissue and fulltone parts...I'll now have to great Vox wahs that I Modded..I always trust my own ears...Every time... :13:
John
