Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

[Mincer]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

I don't know...I am one of those loopers from the 80s and 90s, and have pretty advanced looping devices as well as more basic ones. The reason we don't have more complex loopers now is that it is expensive to make, and without looping (other than basic phrase sampling) getting any attention in the guitar playing world, it is easier and cheaper to make a Ditto than an Echoplex Digital Pro. When a big name decides they need something more than a Ditto, the manufacturers will roll them out quickly, and people will buy them. Until then, we are stuck with some pretty dumb pedals that are great for practice but terrible for live playing.

 

[sosomething]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

I would guess that these days, most people serious about loops and samples are using software and more specialised hardware to make it work. Which has probably left a bit of a gap in the market for high quality floor-based kit for guitar players.

That's a pretty astute guess, I think. I hadn't considered that.

I'll bet someone today who performs using a bunch of loops and such (and they're out there) are running a MacBook and a MIDI board.

 

[guitar74]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

Anything less than 22 frets is a deal breaker for me as well. As far as tuff I like to hear but hate hearing myself on, it's pretty much anyone else's rig but my own.

 

[GoldenVulture]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

Vox Amps

 

[GoldenVulture]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

I read most of his post, it's not that manufacturers are failing to supply robust looping features, it's that guitarists don't want them right now. People just want simple accompaniment, they don't want to modulate and pitch shift loops. That's why pedals like the Ditto are big sellers, and why more feature built in drum machines or clicks. His diatribe was interesting, but he's out of touch with the times. The electric guitar was more of an experimental avenue in the 80s, guitar solos were cool and all that. They're just another part of the rhythm section nowadays. People who would find appeal in modulating loops have moved on to electronica, because laptop-made music creation is cheaper and more powerful than it's ever been. Back when synths costs ten of thousands of dollars and were time consuming to set up, it was another story.

:lmao:

 

[B2D]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

I read most of his post, it's not that manufacturers are failing to supply robust looping features, it's that guitarists don't want them right now. People just want simple accompaniment, they don't want to modulate and pitch shift loops. That's why pedals like the Ditto are big sellers, and why more feature built in drum machines or clicks. His diatribe was interesting, but he's out of touch with the times. The electric guitar was more of an experimental avenue in the 80s, guitar solos were cool and all that. They're just another part of the rhythm section nowadays. People who would find appeal in modulating loops have moved on to electronica, because laptop-made music creation is cheaper and more powerful than it's ever been. Back when synths costs ten of thousands of dollars and were time consuming to set up, it was another story.

There's a lot of truth in this. Just listen to the current top 40 roster and how heavily looping, sequencing, and sampling is in use. It's slightly easier to learn how to use sequencers, loopers, and samplers well than it is to learn how to operate a guitar well and THEN wrangle pedals and amps and stuff like that.

I mean hell, even KROQ switched formats to alternative because there's not a whole lot of good mainstream (key word there) guitar-driven music.

But ripping through a good solo and doing it well is a lot sexier than working a laptop or some decks - to me anyway.

Guitarists will come back around. They always do.

 

[ibis]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

Talk box. Got one but it's too much hassle to set up for the odd song at a gig or even at rehearsal or at home.

Sent from my LG-D855 using Tapatalk

 

[DreX]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

I think there's still a ton of room for improvement with looper pedals now though, because they tend not to specialize in use-cases as much as the specialize in floor space requirements. For example the single button loopers take up no space, but are good for only the most simple of uses (if even that), the Boss RC-300 is absolutely huge and is good for pre-recorded part, the Boomerang III is medium sized and does nearly everything, but consequently the interface is crazy complicated. I think more designs that catered more specifically to how different guitarists wanted to use them would sell really well.

 

[Snake Aces]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

I used to have this MIM Strat that I never quite bonded with. I am more of a LP/humbucker guy to begin with but this Strat was one Strat that spoke to me. So, I bought it back in 2005 or so. I threw in Duncan pickups (SSL-1n, STK-S4m, Custom Custom bridge) but it just wasn't right. I do not get along great with 25.5" scale necks and I am really not a fan of standard thin profiles. So, I ordered a Warmoth neck with the scale I liked and the profile I liked with woods that would bring the tones closer to my LP territory. I began to record with that guitar almost immediately and although a lot of my old recordings got lost in a hard drive crash a few years back, there is still one live recording of me playing it with my band at the time. When I listen to it I kick myself for selling that body. I still have the neck as it's on my main guitar now (which is a great guitar in every way) but there was something special about that MIM body after I had upgraded the trem & saddles and pairing it with the Warmoth neck. However, I just never feel very comfortable with a Strat body under my arm as I have spent most of my guitar playing life on Les Pauls.

 

[jake_xms3_punk]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

Alnico 2 magnets. People get great tones from a2 pickups but I can't get along with them.

 

[Diego]

Re: Gear you like to hear but hate to use?

Add Marshall amps to the mix.
Never thought about it but I've played an AFD100, TSL100, DSL100, JTM45 and a few Valvestates.
I liked the older Valvestates better for my sound, which says a lot...

My perfect distorted sound is a 6505 but their clean sound is absolutely dead.