Gibson 2015 Les Paul Traditional

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Gibson 2015 Les Paul Traditional

What's the average weight of a weight-relieved LP? While we're at it, where's the scientific data on tone in relation to weight?

 

[GuitarGuy503]

Re: Gibson 2015 Les Paul Traditional

To each their own. I haven't played one but the robot tuning strikes me as pretty cheesy and something that will eventually wear out and fail. I'm not a fan of the hologram on the back of the headstock nor the out of place looking "Les Paul 100" either.

 

[LazNovak]

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Yeah, though apparently they upped the price $100 for the 14s.

That's not a big deal. Based on specs I think the Trad Pro ii would be a better option. I did some research and found that some have slime 60s necks and some have fatter 50s necks. I'll have to look into that.

Thanks!

 

[LazNovak]

Re: Gibson 2015 Les Paul Traditional

What's the average weight of a weight-relieved LP? While we're at it, where's the scientific data on tone in relation to weight?

I quickly checked www.gibson.com and the Traditional, with no weight relief, body only, is an average 6 lbs. The Classic with 9 hole relief, body only, is an average 5.6 lbs.

http://www.ludlowguitars.com/blog/guitar-tone-and-weight

http://proguitarshop.com/andyscorner/guitar-body-weight-and-tone

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/ProductSpotlight/Tone-Tips/tone-tips-body-weight-and/

 

[uOpt]

Re: Gibson 2015 Les Paul Traditional

What's the average weight of a weight-relieved LP? While we're at it, where's the scientific data on tone in relation to weight?

The wood that Gibson uses varies in specific weight dramatically. They also seem to reserve the light mahogany for the historics. Whether it sound better or not is a different question.

It's also a different question whether chambering and swiss-cheesing sound better than solid. It isn't rare that people actually prefer the chambered ones, but it is very hard to pick up a guitar, notice the weight, and have the brain pre-biased. But there are plenty solid-body looking guitars that have chambers for sound.

Warwick basses with the TCS (tone chamber "system") are another example.

 

[Detroitblues]

Re: Gibson 2015 Les Paul Traditional

If you like it, buy it. My only beef(s) with Gibson is the price raises and their 50's rounded necks which are not R9 or R8 thicknesses... That are still slim, just a C shape vs. a D shape...

 

[JeffB]

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I have a 14 classic, and a 14 traditional. Although the classic is 1/2 pound lighter, the traditional feels far better balanced and thus feels lighter on the strap. The classic feels really weird...like its pulling towards the floor.EDIT- when playing them back to back. I never noticed any issue with the Classic for 10 months until I got the traditional, and now the difference is very noticable.

 

[uOpt]

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I should point out that I don't mind this variety as such. One of the great things about liking Les Pauls is that they are all so very different from each other. Factors you can't have in a Strat or SG contribute, including the top material which brings in a new components and the options about messing with the wood below the top. Plus neck tenon length. Headplate angle. You name it.

What I don't, or maybe didn't at this point, like is that Gibson was making a secret out of what kind of Les Paul had what kind of weight relief, and people had to go as far as x-raying their guitars. That was a thing not too long ago.

If Gibson made the step of always specifically stating when a "solidbody electric" is either chambered or swiss-cheesed that would go a long way at improving my relationship with them.

Yours proud owner of several solid Les Pauls.

 

[El Supremo]

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I just don't see how you can call a Les Paul "Traditional" when it has that tuner thingy on the back. Slab of mahogany, slab of maple, slab of rosewood or ebony and no sissy weight relieving or other gimmicks, that's how you make a !@#$kin' Les Paul.

Of course, I'll eat these words in 40 years when I've probably worn my spine out .

 

[LazNovak]

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I just don't see how you can call a Les Paul "Traditional" when it has that tuner thingy on the back. Slab of mahogany, slab of maple, slab of rosewood or ebony and no sissy weight relieving or other gimmicks, that's how you make a !@#$kin' Les Paul.

Of course, I'll eat these words in 40 years when I've probably worn my spine out .

Hysterical! That's what the 2015 Traditional is but with the tuner. It's a great guitar.

 

[St_Genesius]

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I've got zero issue with the Min-E-Tune, but I'm defintely waiting until they go back to a normal width fretboard and get rid of that silly, huge "Les Paul 100" logo. I wasn't crazy about the "120th Anniversary" inlay on last year's, but that thing is twice as bad. Is next year an important anniversary for anything GIbson related? I hope not. I'd like to buy another Les Paul.

 

[LazNovak]

Re: Gibson 2015 Les Paul Traditional

I actually called them and what the guy basically said was that each Les Paul's price depends on the quality of wood used and if the body is one or two pieces. The only problem I ever had with a Les Pual was that it didn't feel right. Of the many I tried, they all sounded great.

Each guitar on their website has detailed info.

 

[St_Genesius]

Re: Gibson 2015 Les Paul Traditional

They really upped the game on their website info this year. I've never seen a big manufacturer lay out that much detailed info on the differences between similar-seeming models. The only thing that I found slightly confusing was that the list the Classic as the "most affordable full size LP" (see here" http://www2.gibson.com/Gibson-USA-2015.aspx). I always thought the Studio series was "full-size," just without binding.

In any case, the seafoamish Classic is the hottest thing they've put out since the Traditional Mahogany-top series a couple of years ago.

 

[El Supremo]

Re: Gibson 2015 Les Paul Traditional

Hysterical! That's what the 2015 Traditional is but with the tuner.

So it's not. Almost equals nothing.
I do like the idea of the adjustable zero fret feature. Sounds good in theory.