Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

As a Gibson Les Paul Traditional owner I would have to say get the Tokai. Mosey over to any of the Les Paul forums and you will get a ton of info on 'other les pauls'. Also the 60's neck might be a factor for you. My trad plus has a thicker '50's style neck which is what the Tokai more than likely has, and even with smaller hands the 60s neck felt kind of dainty. Plus you could always use the extra dough for amp, effects, etc.

Final note: price. As both of these are used pieces I wouldnt pay more than 850 for the Tokai , for the Gibson 1350 tops for ebony or goldtop 1450 tops for any other 'burst' finish.

Good luck, check ebay, gbase, other guitar forums if you arent sure of price, you get a better idea of what certain guitars can sell for.


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Correction :


Only the Gibbo is used.

The Tokai is brand spanking new.

 

[SJ318]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

Aceman,
Last interuption, but I don't recall ever seeing an OLD cool Les Paul Burst when I was 14-till now that has that sh***y green on the markers, maybe I should search the Guitar forum and see if there is any reasonal fix besides replacement. Thanks,
Steve

 

[jmoore5000]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

As far as inlays go i think replacement is the only option


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[jmoore5000]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

Correction :


Only the Gibbo is used.

The Tokai is brand spanking new.

Sorry misread the post, in any case i still say tokai. Ive owned 5 gibsons new and can say that from what ive heard that new tokais are less hit and miss than most gibsons.


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[Aceman]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

Aceman,
Last interuption, but I don't recall ever seeing an OLD cool Les Paul Burst when I was 14-till now that has that sh***y green on the markers, maybe I should search the Guitar forum and see if there is any reasonal fix besides replacement. Thanks,
Steve

This is a 1973 Les Paul Standard from my rack. The inlays are as white as a nun's cooch.



Gibson EITHER:

1. Bought a bad batch of inlay and was too cheap to replace it so they used it and called it aged.

2. Had some idiot in the shop who had no idea what they were doing "age" it somehow. This guy was not a guitar player

I'll put $20 on either of those against any other explanation .

And the black light might work. Rememember - sun can melt glue, warp wood etc. exercise caution! The sun thing really works - that's the solution you'll find.

 

[Aceman]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

Have you played many of the newer ones? I think I've tested a dozen or so made in the last ten years and all of them have been good.

I said I hadn't played any in the last few years. I'm not saying they haven't stepped it up.

 

[SJ318]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

Aceman,
As a good Catholic, shame on you for seeing a nun's cooch. Are you using mirrors on your shoes again?
SB

 

[Aceman]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

Aceman,
As a good Catholic, shame on you for seeing a nun's cooch. Are you using mirrors on your shoes again?
SB

I have heard things….

 

[Bludave]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

When you say "bang for the buck" What do you mean? Do you mean the best value($ to $) or to you mean best sounding/playing?

I look at things a little differently. In my case I buy a guitar because I really like it and want to play it. I also tend to keep my guitar for a very long time. In fact I think I have only sold three, but I own about 30 now. So price is not a major concern to me but tone & play-ability is. Every Tokai I have played always sounded bright to me & for that reason I would probably buy the Gibson given the opportunity. They play fine but the tone has always come into question for me. Yeah you can swap out pickups, pots, etc. but if you cn get a Gibson that plays well & sounds well and really don't have to do anything to it. That's pretty good bang for the buck in my opinion.

 

[SirJackdeFuzz]

Re: Gibson VS. Tokai . . . looking for the the best value for my money.

When you say "bang for the buck" What do you mean? Do you mean the best value($ to $) or to you mean best sounding/playing?

I look at things a little differently. In my case I buy a guitar because I really like it and want to play it. I also tend to keep my guitar for a very long time. In fact I think I have only sold three, but I own about 30 now. So price is not a major concern to me but tone & play-ability is. Every Tokai I have played always sounded bright to me & for that reason I would probably buy the Gibson given the opportunity. They play fine but the tone has always come into question for me. Yeah you can swap out pickups, pots, etc. but if you cn get a Gibson that plays well & sounds well and really don't have to do anything to it. That's pretty good bang for the buck in my opinion.

Bang-fo-Buck . . . to me :


What type of build quality do i get.
The quality of the finishing touches.
The quality of the wood. Also, one piece vs. 2 or three piece.
The over quality of the hard wear being used.

For me, there is a blatant quality difference in feel/look & vibe when you compare an Electromatic with a 'real' Gretsch, when you hold them in your own hands.