Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

[rjudo]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

Why would you agree to lend out your guitar with $1000 worth of pickups in it in the first place? Were you trying to bang this broad? Are you jamming at some sort of after school program for underprivileged youth? Why can't these "musicians" bring their own guitars?

I would have told her to go pound sand rather than hand over one of my prized guitars to some tool.

All of that. Didn't bring a guitar to a jam? Too ****in bad, go borrow someone's Squire and stay the hell away from my high end stuff.

 

[Rockstar216]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

I could see letting someone play your rig but not your axe.

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

Why would you agree to lend out your guitar with $1000 worth of pickups in it in the first place? Were you trying to bang this broad? Are you jamming at some sort of after school program for underprivileged youth? Why can't these "musicians" bring their own guitars?

I would have told her to go pound sand rather than hand over one of my prized guitars to some tool.

Im still trying to figure out how this situation equals "a gig"

 

[superpete]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

How did you end up in a situation where you not only had to lend out one of your guitars against your wishes, but it was one of your best ones?

 

[Agileguy_101]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

Orpheo, for all of your money and fine instruments, you are full of derp.

 

[Agileguy_101]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

Also, as a rule, I never lend out anything that I can't afford to replace that same day.

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

Im still trying to figure out how this situation equals "a gig"

In similar vein, I am wondering why it has taken since January for you to find out how the guitar and pickups combination sounds in a "band situation"?

 

[Agileguy_101]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

In similar vein, I am wondering why it has taken since January for you to find out how the guitar and pickups combination sounds in a "band situation"?

Don't judge Orpheo because he's just a hobbyist.

 

[Laughing Kookaburra]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

Guys that have no gear probably have no gear for the very reasons you don't want to lend it to them.

 

[pzaxtl]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

Why would you agree to lend out your guitar with $1000 worth of pickups in it in the first place?

I think an even bigger question for me is why you would put $1000 pickups in a parts guitar?

 

[Mincer]

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I'd rather a few people think I am a jerk for not letting them use my gear, then let them use it and regret it. Friends are different, but people I don't know? And it isn't a paying gig? Just pack up and go home.

 

[CTN]

Re: Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

what would you guys have done in such a situation?

I wouldn't have been dumb about lending out expensive gear to unknown ppl.

Amp/cab is one thing...those are hard to f**k up. But a guitar? Hell, I wouldn't lend mine out to anyone unless I know them well enough to trust them implicitly with my gear, and that's just for my roadwarrior guitars. If I had a super expensive one, I wouldn't be lending it out to anyone at all. Then again if I had a super expensive guitar, I'd probably only play it at home.

I thought this was common sense stuff. Guess I was wrong.

 

[sosomething]

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From what I have read on Internet guitar boards, I gather that these organized jams are something of a different world from what I'm used to. It's a completely different dynamic full of a different kind of player and observer, and I admit I don't know much about it.

I have heard people mention before that there are some dudes who show up having conveniently "forgotten" their guitars, with what one presumes is the intention to borrow other people's (usually nicer, expensive) stuff. Why, one can only speculate.

I do know the list of people to whom I would lend a guitar under any circumstance is very short indeed.

 

[Bludave]

Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

I never ever loan my guitars out to people I don't know. And after all if you are going to a jam shouldn't you bring at least a guitar? I mean really you show up at a jam, knowing its a jam and want to play and have to borrow a guitar? How lame is that!

 

[Funkfingers]

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^ Didn't Pete injure his hand quite badly doing that, at least once?

Back in the Eighties, Chandler Guitars (the London shop) had one of Townshend's black Giffin HH Telecasters displayed in the window. The price tag proudly drew attention to the authentic blood stains spattered across the headstock.

The same window display included Steve Hillage's Stratocaster - as seen on the cover of his album, L.

 

[jumble jumble]

Gigged last week with silver zephyr pickup guitars, my feelings about them

I think an even bigger question for me is why you would put $1000 pickups in a parts guitar?

Do you know about some kind of guitar that isn't made of parts?

 

[blueman335]

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I never ever loan my guitars out to people I don't know. And after all if you are going to a jam shouldn't you bring at least a guitar? I mean really you show up at a jam, knowing its a jam and want to play and have to borrow a guitar? How lame is that!

+1. How can you take a guitarist seriously who comes to a jam without a guitar? Not like they're a big, heavy thing to lug around, like a full-size piano. I never let anybody play my guitars. I have light strings and high actions, which many players don't like, I don't want to hear them complain about it. Plus some of these guys aren't all that responsible when it comes to taking care of someone else's property, especially after a few beers (your first clue about their responsibility level is them showing up to a jam without an instrument). What happens if they drop it or bang into something, and put a big gouge in the finish, break off a tuner, or crack the neck? Don't expect them to pay for it, they didn't agreed to that up front; they apparently didn't want to spend the money on a guitar in the first place.

I went to Arizona on vacation, brought a small travel guitar to practice on, and ended up going to a local blues jam. I would not have expected to play if I didn't have my own guitar, nor would I have asked to borrow one. That's common courtesy.

 

[Artie]

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1) Packed the guitar carefully and left.

2) Killed a hooker.

3) Planted some of his blood at the crime scene.

I can't believe how tasteless and insensitive this is. Why kill an innocent hooker?

Kill the girl, and plant the blood there.

 

[orpheo]

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I suppose the fear of lending out a guitar was overpowered by the motivation of vindication.  I want(ed) to prove my point to her and so I did. I can fix most if not all guitar related injuries and I know first hand how idiotic one has to behave in order for pickups to be damaged beyond repair. Even if the guitar had  jb/jazz combination,  it wouldn't have mattered.
It was a jam for students (I am still a student after all ). And they had a guitar, they just forgot to bring one along (or in one case didnt think he'd be attending).
But as I said, I wanted to prove I would be right in fearing damage and so I did

About the gig vs jam discussion. I don't know about you, but what is a gig, really? Playing with others (drums and bass), in front of an audience. And that's exactly what happened, so… gig.
About the guitars. They were finished but I was a bit critical about their playability so I fixed the up later. I bring my own guitars to a gig (or jam, if you will) and always 2. You simply never know what happens, right?
I used my other guitars for live venues, don't forget I have 40 guitars! I was more comfortable using other guitars I knew better than these two. I don't actually think I have to explain myself why it took me till now from january to try them live, but ok. that's a different story.

About the parts. Sure, they're build from parts, but what guitar isn't? So few guitars are constructed from a single piece, and yes these parts were bought 'separately', but still.. they're one guitar now, and perhaps the finest instruments I have. Or some of the finest (and again… I have 40 of them).

Yes, I'm a hobbyist, but I like good gear, and I play a lot, but not for a living. I like a steady income and a steady live and that's absolutely NOT what a musician has…

 

[sosomething]

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About the gig vs jam discussion. I don't know about you, but what is a gig, really? Playing with others (drums and bass), in front of an audience. And that's exactly what happened, so… gig.