SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Go Heavy Or Go Home
GOT HEAVY ?
GOT HEAVY ?
Go Heavy Or Go Home
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SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Go Heavy Or Go Home
I play 12-52 on my SG, and with the same strings, (some times) tune down to C Std, no problem !
http://www.daddario.com/DADProductD...ctname=ECG25_Chromes_Flat_Wound__Light__12_52
Funny how these Jazz strings love the Stoner genre too
I play 12-52 on my SG, and with the same strings, (some times) tune down to C Std, no problem !
http://www.daddario.com/DADProductD...ctname=ECG25_Chromes_Flat_Wound__Light__12_52
Funny how these Jazz strings love the Stoner genre too
DeathMetalRob
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I've got a strat that I built from scratch designed for metal.
A lot depends on what you want to play. If you want mean crushing tone then I'd recommend Dean Markley Blue Steel. For something a little brighter go with their HD Helix.
The fact on this particular strat I'm using DR, it's only because they're black an I wanted a better two tone look to the guitar.
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?266712-Seymour-Duncan-SH-8-Invader&highlight=Invader - see #7 - this was for tension testing so, the strings are just random.
An all black strat using an SH-10 would be wicked.
I've got a strat that I built from scratch designed for metal.
A lot depends on what you want to play. If you want mean crushing tone then I'd recommend Dean Markley Blue Steel. For something a little brighter go with their HD Helix.
The fact on this particular strat I'm using DR, it's only because they're black an I wanted a better two tone look to the guitar.
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?266712-Seymour-Duncan-SH-8-Invader&highlight=Invader - see #7 - this was for tension testing so, the strings are just random.
An all black strat using an SH-10 would be wicked.
Johnny the Kid
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Which explains the entire Black Label Society discography.
Zakk Wylde said:
Which explains the entire Black Label Society discography.
~Vintage~
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Now that's what I'm talking about, seriously CRUSHING tone like Zakk Wylde has! Freakin' .52 5th string and .70 6th string!!! :bigeyes:
Some people know that big giant fat tone is accomplished by big giant fat strings!
GOT HEAVY ?
Now that's what I'm talking about, seriously CRUSHING tone like Zakk Wylde has! Freakin' .52 5th string and .70 6th string!!! :bigeyes:
Some people know that big giant fat tone is accomplished by big giant fat strings!
Chickenwings
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Ernie Ball Power Slinkys are pretty good for just about everything and they dont flap around like 10's do.
Ernie Ball Power Slinkys are pretty good for just about everything and they dont flap around like 10's do.
Myaccount876
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Probably newer then. I just went by the quick run-down information in the "Skwisgaar Master Class" video. Granted that video is "old" now.
Probably newer then. I just went by the quick run-down information in the "Skwisgaar Master Class" video. Granted that video is "old" now.
Johnny the Kid
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I thought the same as you. It makes sense though. Metal guys tend to like a little more bite back from their stuff (thick picks, thick strings). I use kind of heavy string (11-50 is heavier than most but if that set was a pick color it would be the Tortex greens, not exactly the heaviest) and yellow Tortex sharps. The yellows allow me to still have a fairly nice amount of control, but I've noticed that I play faster with thinner picks while from what I've seen most others play faster with thicker picks.
I thought the same as you. It makes sense though. Metal guys tend to like a little more bite back from their stuff (thick picks, thick strings). I use kind of heavy string (11-50 is heavier than most but if that set was a pick color it would be the Tortex greens, not exactly the heaviest) and yellow Tortex sharps. The yellows allow me to still have a fairly nice amount of control, but I've noticed that I play faster with thinner picks while from what I've seen most others play faster with thicker picks.
Bludave
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I use the D'Addario XL 115's on all my electrics. These are 11 through 49. For standard tuning I would probably start here. Then if you choose to down tune to eb or even D you could go with something heavier. The neck will pull up naturally as you increase to heavier strings, so an obvious Truss rod adjustment will be necessary, I would also recommend adjusting the action once you put heavier strings on the action should be a touch higher as well, then of course once you have the neck straight and the action where you want it you will need to intonate your guitar. Ive been playing a heavier set for many years now with no ill effects at all. I think my tone is a lot better and I can't remember the last time I broke a string..
I use the D'Addario XL 115's on all my electrics. These are 11 through 49. For standard tuning I would probably start here. Then if you choose to down tune to eb or even D you could go with something heavier. The neck will pull up naturally as you increase to heavier strings, so an obvious Truss rod adjustment will be necessary, I would also recommend adjusting the action once you put heavier strings on the action should be a touch higher as well, then of course once you have the neck straight and the action where you want it you will need to intonate your guitar. Ive been playing a heavier set for many years now with no ill effects at all. I think my tone is a lot better and I can't remember the last time I broke a string..
Shadow1psc
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I've been playing metal for years, from death, hardcore, thrash, power and progressive, and I've almost exclusively used Super Slinky 9s. You want heavy? Play a 7 string
I've been playing metal for years, from death, hardcore, thrash, power and progressive, and I've almost exclusively used Super Slinky 9s. You want heavy? Play a 7 string
DeathMetalRob
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I play an 8 tuned to C#. The .115 string gives it good brutality
I've been playing metal for years, from death, hardcore, thrash, power and progressive, and I've almost exclusively used Super Slinky 9s. You want heavy? Play a 7 string
I play an 8 tuned to C#. The .115 string gives it good brutality
Shadow1psc
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That's the ticket!
I play an 8 tuned to C#. The .115 string gives it good brutality
That's the ticket!
~Vintage~
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12-60 aren't really all that thick! I just got done wiring up my new pickguard and installing it yesterday and was going to reuse the strings but they got all tangled up so I ended up cutting them and putting on a set of 12-60's that I have laying around and WOW! I like these! My 3 sets of 11-50's are probably gonna be here tomorrow but I'm gonna rock these power lines for now! I play a lot of leads (think Black Sabbath) and I was worried about bending the treble strings but they aren't that thick. I can easily bend the 1st,2nd,&3rd strings up 2, 2 1/2 steps with no problem. My MIA Fender must have a hard neck because I went to these from 10-46 and didn't even have to adjust the truss rod. The bridge, however is up and can take an extra spring but all in all I like it. I kinda like my action so high I can drive a truck under the strings so we're actually good there!:biglaugh:
12-60 aren't really all that thick! I just got done wiring up my new pickguard and installing it yesterday and was going to reuse the strings but they got all tangled up so I ended up cutting them and putting on a set of 12-60's that I have laying around and WOW! I like these! My 3 sets of 11-50's are probably gonna be here tomorrow but I'm gonna rock these power lines for now! I play a lot of leads (think Black Sabbath) and I was worried about bending the treble strings but they aren't that thick. I can easily bend the 1st,2nd,&3rd strings up 2, 2 1/2 steps with no problem. My MIA Fender must have a hard neck because I went to these from 10-46 and didn't even have to adjust the truss rod. The bridge, however is up and can take an extra spring but all in all I like it. I kinda like my action so high I can drive a truck under the strings so we're actually good there!:biglaugh:
EDX
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dude, i'm using a 24.75 scale guitar and the strings i use are 12 to 52, inclusive with bridge and trussrod adjusts to tight the strings they feel sloppy, specially for my picking hand.....
i use this gauge 'cause is the heaviest gauge i have found on the locality
PS i play 80's style thrash, think on Sodom and Overkill
dude, i'm using a 24.75 scale guitar and the strings i use are 12 to 52, inclusive with bridge and trussrod adjusts to tight the strings they feel sloppy, specially for my picking hand.....
i use this gauge 'cause is the heaviest gauge i have found on the locality
PS i play 80's style thrash, think on Sodom and Overkill
some_dude
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I used 13-70 (wound 3rd) for a few years in C#. It sounded good and was awesome for chording but bending was a b*tch. The last 4-5 years I've used 11-50 in standard.
I've recently switched to 10s. Less fundamental with more harmonics. Makes solos scream in ways I could never get out of the cables I used to run.
I say give big strings a try... It's the only way you'll figure out if you like them.
I used 13-70 (wound 3rd) for a few years in C#. It sounded good and was awesome for chording but bending was a b*tch. The last 4-5 years I've used 11-50 in standard.
I've recently switched to 10s. Less fundamental with more harmonics. Makes solos scream in ways I could never get out of the cables I used to run.
I say give big strings a try... It's the only way you'll figure out if you like them.
NecroPolo
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Now'days I play 9-46 for drop-D and 10-52 for drop-H. Heavy sounding as fcuk and doesn't get too loose. For years I used to play 11s and 12s for drop-D. They kept tuning like hell and rarely broke but soloing damaged my fingers on the long run and made fingers rigid and slow in a way. It took some time to restore my playing from blocky to airy.
Now'days I play 9-46 for drop-D and 10-52 for drop-H. Heavy sounding as fcuk and doesn't get too loose. For years I used to play 11s and 12s for drop-D. They kept tuning like hell and rarely broke but soloing damaged my fingers on the long run and made fingers rigid and slow in a way. It took some time to restore my playing from blocky to airy.
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Uh...Yeah, right!!
You realize of course that one "step" is a full tone which is two frets? And you're saying that you have no problem bending a set of 12's 2 1/2 tones (5 frets)?!!!
Not gonna happen (at least not while you are playing. Maybe if you place your guitar on your lap and grab the string with both hands).
Uh...Yeah, right!!
You realize of course that one "step" is a full tone which is two frets? And you're saying that you have no problem bending a set of 12's 2 1/2 tones (5 frets)?!!!
Not gonna happen (at least not while you are playing. Maybe if you place your guitar on your lap and grab the string with both hands).
jon the art guy
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Not to be that guy, but I regularly bend like that on an acoustic when I'm on a training binge. Right now I've been playing 9s so I have soft fingers, but I'm a big fan of huge bending. I suck at speed and arps, so I would rather jujitsu the neck than strike it.
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Not to be that guy, but I regularly bend like that on an acoustic when I'm on a training binge. Right now I've been playing 9s so I have soft fingers, but I'm a big fan of huge bending. I suck at speed and arps, so I would rather jujitsu the neck than strike it.
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MkIII Renegade
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For me 10-46 is ideal for most any guitar for metal playing, at least my styles of metal. Some of the heaviest recordings ever were with 9s, but the 10s do help both in sound and feel. I have two identical Charvel 475s, and really love the extra heft with 10s vs the hybrid 9-46 set that came on my other one (that will be corrected at the next string change!!). I'm sure I could handle 11s if I wanted to, but you start lose a little of the high end brilliance for cleans and leads when you start putting telephone cable on your guitar! Not to mention playing comfort the possibility of screwing up your hands or getting CTS after playing very thick strings, especially for fast/bendy leads. And those things are important, so 10s win the race for me.
For me 10-46 is ideal for most any guitar for metal playing, at least my styles of metal. Some of the heaviest recordings ever were with 9s, but the 10s do help both in sound and feel. I have two identical Charvel 475s, and really love the extra heft with 10s vs the hybrid 9-46 set that came on my other one (that will be corrected at the next string change!!). I'm sure I could handle 11s if I wanted to, but you start lose a little of the high end brilliance for cleans and leads when you start putting telephone cable on your guitar! Not to mention playing comfort the possibility of screwing up your hands or getting CTS after playing very thick strings, especially for fast/bendy leads. And those things are important, so 10s win the race for me.
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