God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them..

[Dei]

Hey guys,

Im in the middle of a guitar project at the moment, and its going well.
Finally completed all staining, oiling, routing and finishing.
But see, heres my conundrum...

Im planning on a single coil in the neck (not sure on which model yet)
A humbucker (Dimarzio evolution) in the middle (love the tone)
And the tricky part, such as in the ESP A-1 (Aoi of the gazettes signature model) in the bridge im having a seymour duncan SLSD-1b lil screamin demon AND a lace sensor gold in the bridge, side by side.

Now i want these in these positions, a 3 way or 5 way switch to switch between them AND a two way mini switch, that will switch between the SLSD-1b and the lace sensor in the bridge. (Or a 3 way to go SLSD-1b, lace sensor, and them both merged, although i have heard that this is not possible)


If anybody out there could possibly help me with this (im not the greatest at wiring) I would bow to them for eternity ;D

Thank you very much
Dei~

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

Er, please define "merged".

 

[Dei]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

I meant as in playing together at the same time xD

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

^
Yes but is that in series or in parallel with respect to each other?

 

[Dei]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

Im not really sure, as i say im not that great at wiring >.< Which do you recommend? im sorry for the trouble :/

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

Okay.

SUGGESTION #1 - Regular Stratocaster style five-way selector switch plus one DP3T on-on-on mini switch to control whether the bridge PU is the Sensor, the Demon or both connected in parallel. Easy to use. Slightly fiddly to solder up.

SUGGESTION #2 - Four on-off SPDT switches, one for each pickup. (Some Jackson/Charvel instruments worked this way.) The advantage is that you can combine any or all of the available pickups. The disadvantage is that switching between specific combinations can be fiddly. Easy to wire. Fiddly to use.

 

[Frans B. Cocq]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

Well, you could also make the switch select between series and parallel. The Lace is a single-coil, yes? Both could be useful, I think.

I suppose it depends on the combinations you need. Is it essential to have a 5-way and a 2-way mini switch?

In fact, with a wiring that complicated, I'd go for two 5-way switches. One would work as a normal Strat switch, except for the bridge position, which would be left empty. The other would be like this (the order is not important):
1 - Lace
2 - Lace & Demon - series
3 - Lace & Demon - parallel
4 - Demon
5 - off

This would also have the possibility to blend any option above with the options of the regular switch. So if needed, you could have all four pickups blended at the same time (or all four off, if you have both switches at 5...)

 

[Sporky McGuffin]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

I'd think two singles in series is going to be WAY hot. Personally that appeals - I want my brigde settings to be far louder than the others, but I'd suggest parallel is the better way to go.

Is there a way to wire a DPDT on-on-on to do split/parallel/other_split?

 

[Dei]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

SUGGESTION #1 - Regular Stratocaster style five-way selector switch plus one DP3T on-on-on mini switch to control whether the bridge PU is the Sensor, the Demon or both connected in parallel. Easy to use. Slightly fiddly to solder up.

SUGGESTION #2 - Four on-off SPDT switches, one for each pickup. (Some Jackson/Charvel instruments worked this way.) The advantage is that you can combine any or all of the available pickups. The disadvantage is that switching between specific combinations can be fiddly. Easy to wire. Fiddly to use.

Im liking the sound of these two a lot, favouring number one slightly more. Could you give me any more information on how to do this? If you had any diagrams thatd be SO helpful, if not an explanation would be awesome.

 

[tone4days]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

i think he might want the demon and lace available as a series set in order to get maximal bridge position output ... i think this is doable but have to wrestle it some more to be sure

easiest way that comes to mind is an on off on 3 way mini toggle for the bridge ... this would give:

up - split demon only on
middle - both in series
down - split lace only on

he'll have to be totally sure about the polarity and wind directions to make sure they combine in phase ... i've got no clue what is doable with respect to humcancelling in this regard ...

 

[Dei]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

I got the idea of the two pickups from this guitar

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/aoi/index.html

Unfortunately im not entirely sure what type of wiring they use in this, although when i heard it, it had one of the most awesome tones id heard from a guitar ;D

Also thank you to everyone helping in this thread

 

[Mizaki]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

I got the idea of the two pickups from this guitar

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/aoi/index.html

Unfortunately im not entirely sure what type of wiring they use in this, although when i heard it, it had one of the most awesome tones id heard from a guitar ;D

Also thank you to everyone helping in this thread

Hey, that's awesome that there's another Gazette fan here. That's...rare. I love them (and their awesome guitars).

Although I prefer Uruha's tone, Aoi's setup is amazing. I think out of the ESP people... Sugizo had it a long while ago. That might be where Aoi got it from. It's like.. genius. I'm actually pretty jealous of the nice guitars they get over in Japan while over here there's so many purists and traditionalists that we don't get the cool shapes or electronic setups that there are in the Japanese ESP lineup. The sig models there are so cool. Shame the ones in the US are just... metal guitar #1, 2, 3, etc.

 

[Diego]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

SUGGESTION #2 - Four on-off SPDT switches, one for each pickup. (Some Jackson/Charvel instruments worked this way.) The advantage is that you can combine any or all of the available pickups. The disadvantage is that switching between specific combinations can be fiddly. Easy to wire. Fiddly to use.

Not to mention it looks geeky and uncool.

 

[jake_xms3_punk]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/aoi/index.html

ug lee

 

[Dei]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

Ahh i love Uruhas tone too, but i already have a guitar like that ;P
Im still at a loss of what to do :/

 

[Funkfingers]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

I got the idea of the two pickups from this guitar

http://www.espguitars.co.jp/artist/aoi/index.html

Unfortunately im not entirely sure what type of wiring they use in this

The most likely answer is that the three-way selector toggle gives Bridge/Both/Neck and the Sound Variation Mini Switch selects between SD and LS modes.

At no time are the Li'l Duncans and Lace Sensors combined - either in series or parallel.

 

[Dei]

Re: God of wiring required - 3 singles and a humbucker, but not how youd expect them.

Oh yeah i knew this, but i was just wondering if it was at all possible, but its no problem. Is there any chance any of you could sort of tell me how i would go about having a 3 way selector for neck (single) middle (humbucker) and bridge (two singles) with a mini 2 way toggle to switch between which single i use in the bridge?
Thanks in advance