Guitar Guy
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I sort of need a good mic to use with my hot rod deluxe and deville. I know the sm57s are like the "standard", but i've heard good things about the Sennheiser E609 Silver. Any thoughts?
Good mic for guitar?
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Virtual Kevorkian
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Re: Good mic for guitar?
I don't like the top end on the e609 silver. The old black ones were pretty good, but I don't like the new ones much.
My favorite's been the i5 so far.
I don't like the top end on the e609 silver. The old black ones were pretty good, but I don't like the new ones much.
My favorite's been the i5 so far.
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: Good mic for guitar?
I got an SM57 for Christmas, but sadly have not used it yet - i need recording gear first !
I got an SM57 for Christmas, but sadly have not used it yet - i need recording gear first !
Christobevii3
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I like my seinheizer e609, i'd get it, easy to get a good sound from and yes i have the silver one.
I like my seinheizer e609, i'd get it, easy to get a good sound from and yes i have the silver one.
muttonchopsrule
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an SM57 should work just fine. i own both a 57 and a sennheiser 421, and like the sound of the 421 better. however, regardless that the 421 costs 2-3 times as much as the 57, the difference isn't too significant. it's not like you'll be able to say, when listening to a mix, "that guitar track that was tracked with the 421 sounds waaaay better than the one that was tracked with the 57". it all comes down to mic placement, and you should be able to get good tone with a 57 without breaking the bank.
an SM57 should work just fine. i own both a 57 and a sennheiser 421, and like the sound of the 421 better. however, regardless that the 421 costs 2-3 times as much as the 57, the difference isn't too significant. it's not like you'll be able to say, when listening to a mix, "that guitar track that was tracked with the 421 sounds waaaay better than the one that was tracked with the 57". it all comes down to mic placement, and you should be able to get good tone with a 57 without breaking the bank.
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astrozombie
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i say you cant go wrong with a 57.
though i dont own one...i use a crappy USB mic.
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i say you cant go wrong with a 57.
though i dont own one...i use a crappy USB mic.
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Virtual Kevorkian
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Sorry dude, but there's a huge difference between the two, and I could tell immediately which was which.
The MD421 is an LDD, and it's much more scooped/smooth sounding than the 57. I personally wouldn't use it without another mic (57) on the cabinet, either.
Sorry dude, but there's a huge difference between the two, and I could tell immediately which was which.
The MD421 is an LDD, and it's much more scooped/smooth sounding than the 57. I personally wouldn't use it without another mic (57) on the cabinet, either.
muttonchopsrule
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maybe just the raw tracks, sure. but after it's been processed then it probably won't be so obvious. my point was that there are many other factors that contribute to the recorded tone such as the amplifier, the speakers, the player, and most importantly mic placement.
maybe just the raw tracks, sure. but after it's been processed then it probably won't be so obvious. my point was that there are many other factors that contribute to the recorded tone such as the amplifier, the speakers, the player, and most importantly mic placement.
Re: Good mic for guitar?
some of the best tones ive gotten were with a md421 and sm57 mixed. ive heard the 906 is a really nice mic and makes some great recordings.
if you have loads of cash then get a large diaphram tube condenser mic thatll handle atleast 150 db with out the pad on
some of the best tones ive gotten were with a md421 and sm57 mixed. ive heard the 906 is a really nice mic and makes some great recordings.
if you have loads of cash then get a large diaphram tube condenser mic thatll handle atleast 150 db with out the pad on
MattPete
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Blech. I bought one years ago because it was purposefully designed to mic cabs. However, what came out sounded nothing like what I was hearing. Really nasty highend.
A few years later I bought a mic for vocals. Out of curiosity, I put it in front of my cab, and recording using both the Sennheiser and the Oktavia (6 inches to a foot from the speaker). What I heard coming form the Oktavia sounded exactly like what I was hearing coming out of the room. I moved the Sennheiser around and I could never get a good sound.
Never tried an SM57, so I can't compare.
Blech. I bought one years ago because it was purposefully designed to mic cabs. However, what came out sounded nothing like what I was hearing. Really nasty highend.
A few years later I bought a mic for vocals. Out of curiosity, I put it in front of my cab, and recording using both the Sennheiser and the Oktavia (6 inches to a foot from the speaker). What I heard coming form the Oktavia sounded exactly like what I was hearing coming out of the room. I moved the Sennheiser around and I could never get a good sound.
Never tried an SM57, so I can't compare.
Virtual Kevorkian
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How much are you actually processing guitar tracks? An HPF/LPF and maybe 2-3db cuts/boosts in very specific bands is all that should really be done, unless you're purposely going for a super processed sound.
Seriously, even after processing, I can hear the difference. The mic plays a huge part in the recorded tone. Less than placement, but I'd honestly say it makes a bigger difference than the amp.
How much are you actually processing guitar tracks? An HPF/LPF and maybe 2-3db cuts/boosts in very specific bands is all that should really be done, unless you're purposely going for a super processed sound.
Seriously, even after processing, I can hear the difference. The mic plays a huge part in the recorded tone. Less than placement, but I'd honestly say it makes a bigger difference than the amp.
That90'sGuy
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Any reason you're against going with "the standard"? I like my SM 57, but you do have to play with the placement on it, it's not a "set anywhere and comes out perfect" mic.
Any reason you're against going with "the standard"? I like my SM 57, but you do have to play with the placement on it, it's not a "set anywhere and comes out perfect" mic.
Virtual Kevorkian
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I didn't like my 57 that much until 2 days ago, when I cranked my amp up pretty loud... and was really impressed with old glory.
I didn't like my 57 that much until 2 days ago, when I cranked my amp up pretty loud... and was really impressed with old glory.
J Moose
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One of my favorite combinations is to use a 57 & 421 together...capsules physically aligned and brought up to "equal gain" with no EQ or anything post mic. The 421 get's most all of the meat, chunk & body while the 57's grab top and add definition.
On it's own, the lowly 57 can get reaaaaal strong in the upper mids and not generate enough body...not a big fan of the 57 really...sometimes (usually!) pulling it back 4" to a foot off the cabinet works wonders... the same could be said for many mics though.
I like the 609 silver a bunch, not as much as the old 409's but they're still pretty rightous for an inexpensive dynamic mic and IMO, presents a much 'truer' picture of what's coming out of an amp then a single SM57.
I've also found myself reaching for a Beta 52 a lot...sometimes I'll hang a D112 with other mics and use them in combination but that can be a deep, dark tunnel...
If you've got some bucks and a steller micamp then the Royer R-121 is really hard to beat.
One of my favorite combinations is to use a 57 & 421 together...capsules physically aligned and brought up to "equal gain" with no EQ or anything post mic. The 421 get's most all of the meat, chunk & body while the 57's grab top and add definition.
On it's own, the lowly 57 can get reaaaaal strong in the upper mids and not generate enough body...not a big fan of the 57 really...sometimes (usually!) pulling it back 4" to a foot off the cabinet works wonders... the same could be said for many mics though.
I like the 609 silver a bunch, not as much as the old 409's but they're still pretty rightous for an inexpensive dynamic mic and IMO, presents a much 'truer' picture of what's coming out of an amp then a single SM57.
I've also found myself reaching for a Beta 52 a lot...sometimes I'll hang a D112 with other mics and use them in combination but that can be a deep, dark tunnel...
If you've got some bucks and a steller micamp then the Royer R-121 is really hard to beat.
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