Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

oilpit

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I don't know if you guys are familiar but there is a company called Monoprice that makes a tube amp that only costs a hundred bucks! I've been plugging into my PC modeling software for the last year and when I saw this thing I immediately bought it. Link below if you're interested.

https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=611705

I got it a few days ago and have been messing around with it since then. It is...not great; it's very bright and with the volume past 6 it sounds pushed, but not in the way you want an amp to. I figured I would get what I paid for, and despite all of it's flaws it's still an insane value, I seriously don't know how they can sell these things for the price that they do, despite the fact that it is admittedly, kind of crappy.

The clean tone isn't too bad, but even when I put an overdrive in front of it it just sounds like a can of bees (maybe it's the 8 inch speaker?). Anyway, as much as I would love to go out and buy a custom shop Boogie I'm going to try to make this thing sound good! It's got a lot of potential and if I ruin it it's no major loss.

The first steps I have already taken. I ordered a pair of Electro-Harmonix 6v6's, a Mullard 12ax7 and a JJ 12at7. I'm going to try the Mullard first to see if it warms up the distorted tone at all and if it doesn't I'm going for the lower gain tube and going to just try to make it something that will take pedals well. In addition to the tubes I ordered a replacement Jensen speaker.
https://www.jensentone.com/vintage-ceramic/c8r


So the most obvious mods are underway, hopefully the tubes and speaker improve things, but what I really want to do is actually modify the internals of the amp. I have done a ton of googling and while there are various threads about these amps online. The consensus seems to be that they are rebranded Laney Cub 8's, or at least the old ones were, at some point there was a redesign that changed the control panel from the top to the front face and replaced the high and low inputs with a button, whether or not the circuitry changed along with it I can't seem to figure out for sure.
https://www.amazon.com/Laney-Amps-CUB-5-Watt-Amplifier/dp/B002JDXAZS/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

I have given a call to Mercury Magnetics to ask if they have any output transformers that would fit because I think that would be huge. I know there are tons of mod kits for Epi Valve Jr. and other low wattage tube amps but because of the obscurity of Monoprice I do not have such a luxury, and I have absolutely no idea where to begin with this kind of thing. I know removing the negative feedback loop is a common mod for tube amps but again, I don't have a schematic of the board and even if I did I am a total noob at this stuff.

Can anybody give me some insight on where I would get information on how to move forward with this?

Responses greatly appreciated!
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

I thought I saw some you tube videos of modding one or more of those amps. You could check there. I think you may be facing the laws of diminishing returns here. Not saying that a few mods cant be worthwhile. But, spending money on transformers that cost more than the amp may not pay off.
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

By the time you are done with tubes, speakers, and transformer you could have bought a new amp. If part of the project is learning about the amp's internals that is cool. I would make a parts list tally up the price of the parts then decide if it is worth the trouble.
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

Well. That is basically new amp build. Just much easier with ready to go model there you can start to build up from. I don't see no down side in that.

Good idea would be to download schematic, (Laney cub scheamtic should be easy to find), print it, and start to track down the signal line taking note of the compnents along the way and figuring out what they do.

Here's one good article about basics:
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/17116-how-tube-amps-work?page=1

I have link to one great in depht-site about the subject matter on my home computer. I drop it here later on.

Good luck!
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

You should have gotten a Bugera Infinium.
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

It COULD just be the 8" speaker

After all, some kid on youtube managed to demonstrate that the generic starter pack 15w Fender/Squier solid state amp, when jury-rigged hooked up to a proper 4x12" instead of its onboard trash, does a fairly decent SS approximation of a Mesa Rectifier. And isnt even noisy on distortion,

If a cheapie's speaker is atrocious enough, you really cant tell how good or bad an amp can sound


PS and oh yes, Celestion-branded budget speakers youve never heard of before can and WILL suck
 
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Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

Hey guys, thanks for all the responses! I had figured that there was only a limit to how much you can improve what is probably the single cheapest tube amp on the market, at least in the states. I'm glad I posted here before I spent any real money on any components.

But this HAS made me realize that I definitely do want a project amp. My buddy has a Blues Jr. that he has been bugging me to take off of his hands for ages and I think it might fit the bill, it looks likes there are some very well established mod kits and I know that they sound pretty damn good out of the box so I won't feel bad putting some money into it.

I will post an update and hopefully some clips too once I've got the tubes and the speaker installed.
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

My suggestion...save the money you were going to spend on the $99 amp and use it to get/mod that Blues Jr.

The Blues Jr. sounds really good stock...a few mods can make it awesome. (I recommend an Eminence Cannabis Rex plus the Fromel mods.)
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

It's the speaker. I have yet to hear an 8" speaker that sounds like a real amp.
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

It's the speaker. I have yet to hear an 8" speaker that sounds like a real amp.

Eminence beta 8.

It's very flat and clean if you're used to Celestion, but it doesn't sound bad at all when you have rig set right.
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

Why not look for a used laney lc15?
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

It's the speaker. I have yet to hear an 8" speaker that sounds like a real amp.

I think that is attributed more to the class of budget amps 8-inch speakers typically come in than 8-inch speakers. There are a lot of great 8-inch and sub-8-inch speakers on the market. The rub is the good/great speakers cost more than the amps you would want a replacement speaker for.
 
Re: Got a $99 tube amps and I really want to mod it, but don't know where to start

I think that is attributed more to the class of budget amps 8-inch speakers typically come in than 8-inch speakers. There are a lot of great 8-inch and sub-8-inch speakers on the market. The rub is the good/great speakers cost more than the amps you would want a replacement speaker for.

Source it from the used market. 40-60 bucks can get you a lot of good stuff

Well, in America, at least... in mostly urban overseas markets like eastern europe or japan, few hobbyists own big amps and they're crazy expensive.

The fact that international shipping on a head is typically 200-300 bucks and speakers and cabs are for al intents and purposes unshippable for private individuals who don't get into LCL freight makes the whole used market shrink to local availability only
 
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