Great new amp...

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I've spent a couple of days with the Mission Aurora 30 watt now, and the truth is, I think it's one of the best amps I've ever played. In some ways it IS the best.

The clean tones are big and warm...but I love the overdriven tone of this thing. It's more Voxy than I realized but also has alot of growl and bark...killer, thick, textured mids.

And this amp does pinch harmonics more easily than any amp I have ever played through.

It has a tone that is both familiar and differant than any amp I've played. It sounds Voxy but doesn't sound exactly like a Vox: it's vocal, but not as annoyingly bright. It sounds Marshally but it's not shrill and bright and to loud like some can be. And it sounds Fendery but not blackface Fendery...more tweed Bassman Fendery, but again, a lot more mids, more texture to the mids and never glassy or shrill sounding.

I really like the overdrive pedal that is included with the amp. It's an off/on footswitch and the boost uses the amp's own tube circuitry. I can go from a clean rythym to a tone that is nicely overdriven...a "brown sound" if you will, very much like a cranked Vox or Marshall but thicker and more textured. Sort of like a Santana/Mesa Boogie tone but again: differant.

The amp uses a pair of 6L6's for 30 watts of output into a G12H30 style 12" speaker that Bruce is having built right here in the USA.

I've been comparing it to my '66 blackface Deluxe Reverb, which uses a Celestion G12H30 and has about 22 watts. This amp has been my favorite amp for several years now and I've always thought of it as being unbeatable. It's tone is alot more Fendery and American...much more so than I thought. I thought my DR had been modded into a very Marshally tone but the Aurora, because it uses a cathode follower circuit like a tweed Bassman, Vox or Marshall, is much more British in it's voicing.

The 30 watt Aurora sounds a lot bigger and louder. Bruce intentionally used a deeper than normal cabinet to give the single 12" speaker a deeper and bigger tone. But the Mission also uses two 6L6's vs the 6V6's of the DR and the Mission has about 10 watts more of power.

The amp also has a "Spirit" control. This is a variable negative feedback control with "0" being maximum feedback for the cleanest tones and "10" being
the least feedback for the brightest, most open, most easily overdriven kind of tones.

I found that I liked it set at about "4".

This amp uses a cathode follower circuit, like a Marshall Plexi, Fender tweed Bassman or Vox AC-30. This gives the amp a "British" tone, even though it was originally used by Fender in the 50's. It gives the tone and tone controls a unique sound and feel that's instantly recognizable as being authentically Marshall/Vox.

The spring reverb sounds great, but it's not a super bright and splashy surf reverb. Bruce tells me that most players describe it as being more like real reverb, where there's a slight delay and then you hear the reflected sound. It does FEEL that way...but I didn't hear any actual delay between when I sounded a note and then heard the reverb. But it feels that way...which is how natural reverb occurs. In any case, it's a great sounding reverb.

The amp has hi and lo inputs and both are totally useable. Use the lo input if you're interested in cleanish tones with beautiful Voxy jangle and chime. I use the hi input which allows me to go from clean to a fairly overdriven blues tone with my Strat that reminds me of Clapton's blues tones with a Les Paul, with just my guitar's volume control...and then I kick in the foot pedal boost when I want to soar a little more and get some outrageous sounding Billy Gibbon style pinch harmonics! Killer pinch harmonics from this amp...the easiest ever.

The amp also features a "single coil/humbucker" toggle switch. The effect is subtle, but the humbucker setting does seem to give some needed hi's to humbuckers and keep the neck humbucker from sounding to woofy when dialing in overdriven tones.

It's a great amp. The absolute best amp that Bruce has designed so far and the culmination of everything he has learned about amps. Also, it bears mentioning that Bruce became very close friends with Ken Fischer, designer of Trainwreck Amps before Ken died, and Ken was very open with Bruce, considered him a peer and passed along many of his trade secrets to Bruce.

Bruce said alot of those trade secrets were great and alot of them were all in Ken's mind... (laugh!)

I have a feeling though that Bruce's new amp would compare very favorably to any Trainwreck amp.
 
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Just one more thing: I recently sold my Matchless SC-30 and I'm buying one of these Mission Auroras. I ordered one from Bruce yesterday!
 
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...Gotta try one of those for sure!!
Sounds very much like a very favorable combination!

I'd love to figure out a way for you to try one.

There will be a review in Vintage Guitar and Guitar Player magazine though.

Both mags have asked Bruce to submit the amp to them based on what they heard from the prototype Bruce had at the Dallas Guitar Show.

But Bruce didn't want to give them something that looked like a prototype inside from changing resistors and caps and tweaking values.

I'm glad he revoiced it a little and made the switch from KT66 output tubes to 6L6's...they give the amp an even better tone than the prototype ErikH fell in love with had.

Interesting that this amp sounds so Voxy, yet it uses 6L6 output tubes.

Lew
 
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Well I hope to get to the States one fine day:)
With the increasing of our sale overthere it might be possible to get there eventually!
Yeah kinda defeats the usual ideas of what is supposed to sound like.
Which is great!
 
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Ok, I think you just described my ideal amp. From what you're saying, that one has everything I'd need. Man, the GAS is killing me....LOL.

Is this one a revision to the MA-A35R? Now the MA-A30R (though it's not listed on the site).

Try and get your next gig recorded. I'd love to hear it in action with a full band.
 
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Dare I ask....(how much) ? :)

Not that much for a 100% handbuilt boutique amp that's in zillion dollar Trainwreck territory in terms of tone.

Bruce is thinking around $1700.

I'll tell you, it's nicer than my Matchless SC-30...and that was a very nice amp! But the grainy, rough highs of the SC-30 eventually bugged me after a while and I went back to using my blackface Fenders. My Matchless didn't have reverb either and the Mission does.

Next up, I'll compare the new Mission to my Matchless one 12 Chieftan...that amp has reverb and is kind of a Marshall/Fender comnination. Great amp. I sold my SC-30 but I'll probably never sell my Chieftan...just wish it wasn't so loud so I could play it out more often.

Lew
 
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Ok, I think you just described my ideal amp. From what you're saying, that one has everything I'd need. Man, the GAS is killing me....LOL.

Is this one a revision to the MA-A35R? Now the MA-A30R (though it's not listed on the site).

Try and get your next gig recorded. I'd love to hear it in action with a full band.

Erik, I know how much you liked the prototype...but this new 6L6 version is a big improvement over the KT66 version you tried in Dallas. And Bruce has redesigned the input jacks so the hi input is the "turbo jack" and the lo is what the hi input used to be. So this version "takes off" quicker. Lew
 
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Not that much for a 100% handbuilt boutique amp that's in zillion dollar Trainwreck territory in terms of tone.

Bruce is thinking around $1700.

I'll tell you, it's nicer than my Matchless SC-30...and that was a very nice amp! But the grainy, rough highs of the SC-30 eventually bugged me after a while and I went back to using my blackface Fenders. My Matchless didn't have reverb either and the Mission does. Lew

Thats the MSRP on the Rivera I have now! I didnt pay near that used but their dealers charge full price I believe. So thats not too bad.
 
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Erik, I know how much you liked the prototype...but this new 6L6 version is a big improvement over the KT66 version you tried in Dallas. And Bruce has redesigned the input jacks so the hi input is the "turbo jack" and the lo is what the hi input used to be. So this version "takes off" quicker. Lew

NICE!!!! Looks like I may have to save up a little more than I originally had planned....LOL. As long as it does well in the smaller venues, that works for me.
 
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Not that much for a 100% handbuilt boutique amp that's in zillion dollar Trainwreck territory in terms of tone.

Bruce is thinking around $1700.

I'll tell you, it's nicer than my Matchless SC-30...and that was a very nice amp! But the grainy, rough highs of the SC-30 eventually bugged me after a while and I went back to using my blackface Fenders. My Matchless didn't have reverb either and the Mission does. Lew

From what you're saying, that's a steal right there. Cool stuff!
 
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You do have a way with words Lew...sounds killer and I dig the vintage look. Sounds like my dream amp....I feel the GAS bubblin' up...
 
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You do have a way with words Lew...sounds killer and I dig the vintage look. Sounds like my dream amp....I feel the GAS bubblin' up...

My dad used always tell me: "sell the sizzle...not the steak."

(laugh!)

But this really is a great amp and I feel it's the "dream amp" alot of players have been waiting for. Especially me!
Lew
 
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Does Bruce plan on doing a head version Lew?

If it sounds anything like it looks, it's gonna be a killer !!!

When is the magazine review gonna be, do you know?
 
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Just pray it doesn't take him forever to build it for ya...LOL.

(laugh!) I don't think it'll be to bad. But I think it was Howard Dumble who had it in his sales contract that you could not call him up and ask him when your amp would be ready! And if you did, it was right in the contract that he could cancel your order because you called and bugged him about when your Dumble Amp would be ready! I doubt he ever did that to Robben Ford or Larry Carlton though...

Lew
 
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Does Bruce plan on doing a head version Lew?

Sell the sizzle, not the steak. Great quote I'll have to remember. :cool2:

I'm thinking the same thing as Terry.....head/2-12 combo. Just when I thought I was completely over the GAS phase of my life, the Aurora comes up!
 
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(laugh!) I don't think it'll be to bad. But I think it was Howard Dumble who had it in his sales contract that you could not call him up and ask him when your amp would be ready! And if you did, it was right in the contract that he could cancel your order because you called and bugged him about when your Dumble Amp would be ready! I doubt he ever did that to Robben Ford or Larry Carlton though...

Lew

Yep, it was Howard. I had read the same thing.

Bruce's work is worth the wait. The site says 4-6 weeks so there ya go. ;)
 
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sounds like a cool amp with a lot of features I like - adjustable feedback, etc.

it's hard to come up with something fairly original these days, but it sounds like Bruce has done that
 
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