Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!).

I'll try to keep this short. This is going on my Green Buddy, in my quest to get all 50's parts (first the Bigsby, now this, then tuners, etc.).

Backstory:
I've always loved the Gretsch Melita Bridge. Designed in the early 50's by Johnny Melita. It was the first fully adjustable (intonable) bridge, the predecessor to the Tune-O-Matic Gibson started using a little later. Originals from the 50's are hard to come by, and expensive to boot. Back in the 80's, you could get them all day long for $50. Now, they can sell for as much as $500 for one in perfect shape, but the market value seems to hover around $350 for one in decent shape. The sticking point is that the base (which is often damaged) is plastic to form to the curvature of the body it's on. So it breaks, and many Melitas from the 50's no longer have the original base. Also, Gretsch decided to start writing "Gretsch" in the middle instead of "Melita."

So I found this one on eBay, in good shape but blackened from years of use. The woman had it listed at BIN $300, starting bid $250. I didn't want to pay that, so I sent her an e-mail saying "I'll send you $__ right now if you sell it to me" (I didn't include the amount, because it's ridiculously low). She replied no. 2 weeks later, on her third relist, I sent another one. Basically I said, "I'll pay your paypal fees, and you won't need to pay eBay fees. This is the last time I'll contact you, I don't want to bother you. If you want it, it's yours, if not, it's been a pleasure talking to you and good luck." 5 days later, I get an e-mail: "take the dam* thing, it's yours. I need to pay my insurance." So, I now owned a 1955 Melita bridge! :) I threw in an extra $15 on what we agreed on, because I wanted to be fair(er).

So I got it in while I was in LA for Thanksgiving. Been cleaning it since I got home yesterday with a strict regimen of Distilled and Balsamic Vinegar, Clorox, toothbrushes, and 00 & 000 grade steel wool. Took about 5 hours of work I'd say. And I'm extremely proud of how it came out. Could be the best thing I've ever done. I could list this realistically for $450 on eBay, and it'd sell. I'm pretty stoked! Anyways, here's the pictures. My Green Buddy is one lucky ass guitar! :laughing:

eBay Pictures: - Notice how black the parts are? I didn't know if it was cleanable or not.

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Before I cleaned it: - Picture quality is lower than it should have been, didn't use tripod and I used flash :smack:

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While I was cleaning it: - Check out the grime and stuff reacting with the acid in the first few pics, created a nice sludgy/smoky/cloudy mixture at the top of the vinegar. Then with the steel wool, the black stuff came off instantly.

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After cleaning it, here are all 22 parts drying off (beautiful picture, I think):

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And here she is, all put together. This isn't gold, it's chrome. It just looks gold from the lighting. Again, just a beautiful piece of engineering:

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Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Nice job cleaning it.
I have to admit I'm still curious about the sum you did pay. :D

BTW,
What have you decided to do with the truss rod?
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Sure looks neat.
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Here's a few pics I just snapped of it on the guitar. Looks pretty awesome, in my opinion. Some may think it's too bulky, but not me! :) I love it, 100%. This is the bridge I've dreamt about forever. I'm so happy at this moment, I can't even describe it.

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On this pic, you may notice that the 'feet' are not connected to the guitar yet. You generally use extremely thin double sided tape. It doesn't harm the finish, comes off instantly, and keeps the bridge down/in place. I'll get some eventually:

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Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Nice job cleaning it.
I have to admit I'm still curious about the sum you did pay. :D

BTW,
What have you decided to do with the truss rod?

Thanks dude! About the truss rod, I might have an exact replica of this neck custom crafted. Dangles gave me a fantastic dude who does it for a living, and I'm working it out with him. It'd be the exact same as the current one (headstock and all), with the old logo (it just screws on/off). Maple neck, ebony board. Very nice. We'll see though, I've got no idea in the long run what I'll do.

Sure looks neat.

Thank you very much!
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Very cool mate, I love how "machine" like it looks.
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Thanks dude! I like that look a lot too.

Here's the banner picture from gretschpages.com. Beautiful. This is a reproduction Melita, the ones they've been using for 40+ years now. See how it says 'Gretsch' in the middle? It also has "SYNCHRO-SONIC BRIDGE" written around both mounting poles, whereas mine has that written around one, and the patent number around the other.

Still, just beautiful in my opinion:

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Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Naturally there's something wrong with Imageshack, so half of the pictures aren't showing up. :smack:

Well it's no big deal. You all get the gist. Hopefully the pics work soon. I'm off to bed, later fellas and thanks for the kind words!
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

I think I see all the pictures. Looks very cool, man. I needed to see pics of it on your Green Buddy... at first I thought after cleaning it was all brass. Must be the lighting quality or reflection of the wall colors (I'm going to guess tripod + no flash + incandescent lighting).

That guitar has a TON of character, though. From the bridge to the Bigsby to the pickups... I like it. However, the white bell knobs do bother me. Are those original? If not, any plans to find vintage correct parts, or do you like them as they are?

Get that neck fixed soon!
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Those are great bridges once you get to know how to use them. Nice score and great cleanup job.

Gotta agree with MikeS on those white knobs....
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Stunning! The first pic of the guitar blew my mind, i ve seen pictures of it before, but that one just looks amazing dude
How much is the replica new going to cost?
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Stunning! The first pic of the guitar blew my mind, i ve seen pictures of it before, but that one just looks amazing dude
How much is the replica new going to cost?

+3. Those knobs really need to be changed.
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Good job cleaning that bridge. I would've left it grimey...think of all the years of grease it's been accumulating!

I can totally see you rockin out one day, gettin carried away and smashin the Green Buddy, and scattering hundreds of dollars in deluxe vintage hardware in all directions...ahhh guess you can't rock that hard with a pomp tho huh...
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Hey BigAl that's some piece of hardware... very nicely engineered! I see the pros and cons of cleaning it up, but you clearly wanted THAT bridge real bad... and WOW, you've done a superb job.. man, I'm proud and I didn't do it! Ha ha ha, lol... great stuff... just hurry up and get it fixed. Between you, GJ and some of the other guys on here, I'm gassing for a semi-hollow body now. Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Edit. You know what, I know you call it your Green Buddy, BUT... if it were mine he'd be.......... SHREK!!!! Thought I'd let you know.
 
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Before I go on, some of the pics still aren't showing up, I'll get it fixed.

I think I see all the pictures. Looks very cool, man. I needed to see pics of it on your Green Buddy... at first I thought after cleaning it was all brass. Must be the lighting quality or reflection of the wall colors (I'm going to guess tripod + no flash + incandescent lighting).

That guitar has a TON of character, though. From the bridge to the Bigsby to the pickups... I like it. However, the white bell knobs do bother me. Are those original? If not, any plans to find vintage correct parts, or do you like them as they are?

Get that neck fixed soon!

Those are great bridges once you get to know how to use them. Nice score and great cleanup job.

Gotta agree with MikeS on those white knobs....

+3. Those knobs really need to be changed.

I appreciate the comments guys. Very much in fact! So what knobs would you all suggest? These are the knobs that would have come on it stock, or close to these. What would you guys put on? I'm very open to change, and I'd also love to get 50's knobs. These are more or less a stopgap while I figure out what I permanently want.

Stunning! The first pic of the guitar blew my mind, i ve seen pictures of it before, but that one just looks amazing dude
How much is the replica new going to cost?

Thanks bro! Thank you very much. Having the current neck rebuilt (new truss rod and fingerboard) would be about $500-$700. The pro is that I keep the original neck. The con is that this wood isn't really that great, it has a slight gap in the neck pocket, and the wood is cracked in a few places (not on the surface, but inside). Getting a new one made would cost about the same. The pro is that it's brand new, and would be exactly what I want. The only con is that it wouldn't be original, but it'd look exactly like this one. So I'm really leaning towards this.

Good job cleaning that bridge. I would've left it grimey...think of all the years of grease it's been accumulating!

I can totally see you rockin out one day, gettin carried away and smashin the Green Buddy, and scattering hundreds of dollars in deluxe vintage hardware in all directions...ahhh guess you can't rock that hard with a pomp tho huh...

lol Thanks buddy. I thought about leaving it grimy, but just like the Bigsby (which took 2 days to clean), I wanna add my own grime. I'll own this guitar for 60 more years, I'll mess it up. And if I ever do break it, it's gettin' framed and mounted in my house. Retired if you will. :)

Hey BigAl that's some piece of hardware... very nicely engineered! I see the pros and cons of cleaning it up, but you clearly wanted THAT bridge real bad... and WOW, you've done a superb job.. man, I'm proud and I didn't do it! Ha ha ha, lol... great stuff... just hurry up and get it fixed. Between you, GJ and some of the other guys on here, I'm gassing for a semi-hollow body now. Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Edit. You know what, I know you call it your Green Buddy, BUT... if it were mine he'd be.......... SHREK!!!! Thought I'd let you know.

:) Thanks dude, made me smile! I'll get it fixed one of these days. Money shouldn't be a huge problem, but I need a car. It's killing me to know that I'll have money, but can't fix my friend! :laughing:
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

everything from the pickups, to the bigsby, to the new bridge piece have a chrome machine like basic/vintage look to them.

I would go with knobs along the same lines, definately chrome/nickel, very simply shaped to fit with the vintage/basic machine style, but with just that little something else, I dont quite know what.
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

Check out this website:

http://qparts.com/index.php?cPath=20

I've always been considering something from there. Basically a chrome dome knob, with an inlay at the top. Maybe ebony to match the fretboard? Real mother of pearl to match the inlays? I dunno.

It's under "UFO" knobs. I was also considering green abalone, and getting abalone inlays on my new neck, with the ebony. That could look very cool or very ugly.
 
Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

I appreciate the comments guys. Very much in fact! So what knobs would you all suggest? These are the knobs that would have come on it stock, or close to these. What would you guys put on? I'm very open to change, and I'd also love to get 50's knobs. These are more or less a stopgap while I figure out what I permanently want.

Tough call. The one problem I see with straying from white is that it would leave the pickup rings as the last remnant of bright white parts. Are those original? I almost think that aging those parts (assuming they aren't original and you don't mind altering them) would fit the bill fine. Some a little less bleached looking. Otherwise, it's hard to argue with a plain metal barrel knob.

That's me, though. By all means, if you like them, tell me to shut up! ;)
 
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Tough call. The one problem I see with straying from white is that it would leave the pickup rings as the last remnant of bright white parts. Are those original? I almost think that aging those parts (assuming they aren't original and you don't mind altering them) would fit the bill fine. Some a little less bleached looking. Otherwise, it's hard to argue with a plain metal barrel knob.

That's me, though. By all means, if you like them, tell me to shut up! ;)

You've touched upon another big dilemma. :)

The rings are original, but I refinished them in white to match the truss rod cover, pickguard, and knobs. What I'm considering doing is getting Gretsch pickup surrounds, like this:

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This goes nearly flush with the body, and is semi-transparent. I think that'll be slightly better looking than the big white ones on there now.

However, that is smaller than the current rings. So the holes won't line up, and I'll have to drill new holes (which doesn't bother me). But the old holes will be sticking out. If I can find a good way to fill in the old holes, I'll do this. I love these pickup surrounds.

If I go with those surrounds some day, I'll likely change the knobs. Chrome definitely, but what kind? That's why I'm really looking at those Q-parts ones, I think they'll spiffy up the knob section. Some really cool stuff there.

Too bad this isn't a Gretsch, I could just throw some of these on and call it a day:

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Re: Green Buddy Update: 1955 Melita Bridge Pictorial (more pics than you ever wanted!

You painted the original rings? If that's the case, sand and reshoot another color. They're already altered, what is there to loose?

I love the Gretsch knobs. Nice and classy, and perfect depth/diameter ratio. There's got to be a knob on the market that is close.
 
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