Gus G Fire Review

baron55

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Got the Gus G Fire Active Humbucker set and here are some impressions.


The Guitar is a Mahogany Body Charvel San Dimas (early 1990's) with Maple neck and rosewood fingerboard with an original Floyd Rose floating trem.

First off the pickups behave just like passives, well because they are. I have always tended to favor passives due to the better dynamics and touch sensitivity as well as a more organic tone.

The voicing is very fat and is similar to the tone of a Dimarzio Tone Zone, with a lot of lows, low mids. The highs are more subdued. But this pickup was made for a guy who uses floating Floyds which tend to be weak in these frequencies.

I found that the pickups was less dark with the floating configuration on my guitar than the "dive only" configuration.

As with blackouts these pickups have tons of gain, even too much possibly. I find I get a better clearer tone with the volume backed off so I am not too concerned about that aspect.

Overall I like them.

My biggest complaint is they are extremely noisy when you are not playing. The typical buzz/hiss you hear in a high gain amp when you are not playing is amplified to much higher levels that you must use a noise gate when using them. When you play the noise is gone, but re-appears when you stop. Turning the guitar volume down quite a bit will also kill the noise. This is the same noise that varies when you move the guitar around or change position relative to the amp. All pickups have it, but with these it is the same amplitude as the normal guitar signal.

I don't have this issue with regular passives or EMG's or even the original potted/sealed blackouts.

It is not a ground issue or guitar shielding issue, (been installing actives and passives for over 25 years) and am well versed in ground and ground loop prevention.

My guess is that these are picking up the same stuff that all passives pickup and the preamp is just maginfying the noise floor.

I could be wrong but I do believe that the epoxy sealed EMGs and Duncans are shielded this the epoxy resin case where boosting conventional pickups as these although lower gain contributes to the noise.


Overall I like them, but the noise is a big negative. But with a noise suppressor like the ISP they work just fine. I also like how the base tone does not change when the volume is turned down.
 
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Did you by any chance try them without the Blackouts preamp as well? Thanks for the review though, I've been super interested in these.
 
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But this pickup was made for a guy who uses floating Floyds which tend to be weak in these frequencies.

If you mean Gus G, he doesn't use Floyds practically ever. I have probably once seen him play a guitar with Floyd or I might even mistake it for seeing a Gus signature guitar with Floyd. But I wouldn't say they are designed for Floyd guitars. But I see no reason for them not to sound good with Floyds. They seem like very good pickups.
 
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Hmm I could be mistaken but I though I saw a couple of pics of him with a Floyd.

But most show him with a hard tail.
 
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His first sig guitars had floyds. They are all TOMs now. I don't think he currently uses any trems at all.
 
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I think the preamp suppose to be noise free,except you split your coil.
Some folks here said the BMP are dead quiet and also Gus live vids with it didn't show any trace of noise (I don't know his rig btw so I maybe wrong).
Are you sure you wired it correctly? Or perhaps defective preamp?
This thing might hold me back from buying one,as I really hate noise with passion.
 
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That is odd. I have used the BMP w/several p'ups, some of 'em high output, and they have been very quiet as far as noise.

I would be very interested to know what the DC resistance is on the Gus HB's?
 
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That's interesting. Typically the noise is much louder when I am playing than when I'm not, but that's mainly because I suck at guitar.
 
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I think the preamp suppose to be noise free,except you split your coil.
Some folks here said the BMP are dead quiet and also Gus live vids with it didn't show any trace of noise (I don't know his rig btw so I maybe wrong).
Are you sure you wired it correctly? Or perhaps defective preamp?
This thing might hold me back from buying one,as I really hate noise with passion.

Yep they are wired correctly. Tried grounding the bridge, and not grounding the bridge. Same noise no difference. The pickups sound great when played but noise city when stopped. All pickups make some background noise that is usually much lower than the actual output. But the noise on these is the same background noise by just as loud as the normal output of the pickups.

On the preamp you guys might have something there, if I disconnect the preamp from the output the noise is gone. Even when the guitar is unplugged with the cable still in the amp, the noise is way lower.

Also if the volume on the guitar is turned down about 50% the noise is very low just like all my passives (Custom, Custom 5) but when the volume is turned up, the noise is extremely loud. Even at low amp volumes very noisy.

And yes very similar to running single coils as far as noise, but the pickups are in humbucker because they are very fat and thick, where the single coil would be thinner. BTW the noise is the same on both neck and humbucker but less when both are switched in.
 
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Looks like pickups using external preamps are going to be actually noisier since the preamp is amplifying the noise generated by the passive pickups. So this looks like the norm.

The sealed actives are quiter since the preamp is sealed and shielded in the pickups themselves.
 
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What amp and cables do you use? I'm afraid one of them was the culprit to the noise.
I hope Evan or Frank might come with some detailed insight though
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Nope cables amps are fine. These are not the sealed blackouts that are associated with low noise. The Gus G are simply custom wound passives connected to the blackout modular preamp. So any noise these pickups pick up is further amplified by the modular preamp.

The noise I speak of is the same noise regular passives pick up when you are not playing, the noise that changes in amplitude when you move the guitar around different places. With passives the noise is usually much lower than the signal level. So yes when you stop playing you hear it but it is not unbearable. But with the Gus G set, the noise is very loud, just as loud as the signal level. The noise disappears when you play since now you actually have signal present but as soon as you stop the noise is very much loud and in your face.

If the pickups are disconnected from the preamp there is silence. So it is not the preamp but just the preamp amplifying the normal noise floor too loud.

The typical active pickups like EMG, Live Wires and the sealed blackouts are very quiet since the preamp is incased and shielded within the pickups themselves, and the pickups are very low in output.

I have had EMG 81/85 Tone Zone, Custom, Custom 5, Ab1 Blackouts, Bare Knuckles Warpig, Aftermath, Motor City Afwayu with no noise issues in this guitar.
 
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That is odd. I have used the BMP w/several p'ups, some of 'em high output, and they have been very quiet as far as noise.

I would be very interested to know what the DC resistance is on the Gus HB's?

Yeah...same here, I even hooked it up to a pair of Invaders...practically no noise at all. That Gus G preamp might be defective in some way....
 
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