half stack/full stack
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Quencho092
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Re: half stack/full stack
a 1/8th stack is more than enough power for me to be able to almost drown out a 12 horn jazz band(7 saxes,4 trumpets, and a trombone).....DRRI!!!
Stacks were made for huge venues back in the day when the PA systems sucked and couldn't power enough. Now the only people that I could justify owning or wanting to own multiple stacks would be teenagers who want to showboat or blast their own bandmates away, AKA, people who just dont know any better.
a 1/8th stack is more than enough power for me to be able to almost drown out a 12 horn jazz band(7 saxes,4 trumpets, and a trombone).....DRRI!!!
Stacks were made for huge venues back in the day when the PA systems sucked and couldn't power enough. Now the only people that I could justify owning or wanting to own multiple stacks would be teenagers who want to showboat or blast their own bandmates away, AKA, people who just dont know any better.
Re: half stack/full stack
I would think it takes a while for a gigging guitarist to realize that hualing a stack around is a bit of a waste.... I mean they are fun and they do sound great, and come in handy when the PA is cr*p.... But most gigs guitarists play could be covered with a great 1x12 combo for sure..... But nothing is like plugging into a stack and letting loose for a bit.. But i leave mine at home for sure these days!
I've been wanting one of those new Traynor combos.... Maybe the wine red 20 watt 1x12 with the Greenback speaker....
Whofan
Quencho092 said:
I would think it takes a while for a gigging guitarist to realize that hualing a stack around is a bit of a waste.... I mean they are fun and they do sound great, and come in handy when the PA is cr*p.... But most gigs guitarists play could be covered with a great 1x12 combo for sure..... But nothing is like plugging into a stack and letting loose for a bit.. But i leave mine at home for sure these days!
I've been wanting one of those new Traynor combos.... Maybe the wine red 20 watt 1x12 with the Greenback speaker....
Whofan
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Skarekrough
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Re: half stack/full stack
The best pro-stack argument has been from someone who liked to swap around speaker configs. On some nights they wanted 2x12 straight, on other 1x10 on a slant, etc. And I can kinda see the logic with that.
The best pro-stack argument has been from someone who liked to swap around speaker configs. On some nights they wanted 2x12 straight, on other 1x10 on a slant, etc. And I can kinda see the logic with that.
Re: half stack/full stack
I use the same amp heads with many different cabs too.. I use a bit of everything.... But my first call amp is a Classic 30 combo with a few pedals as it is so easy to carry and still loud! But with my 5150 head and my Classic 50 head and my JCM 800 head i have various speakers i can use... A little Marshall 1x12 1912 cab i use a lot with my heads! I do use the 5150 cab once in a while when i feel like lugging... But i'm loving these little loud combos these days.
Case in point of a combo not being enough volume is a pro player i know loves Keith Moon and when he gets behind the kit and plays like Keith i need a stack just to hear myself!
WhoFan
Skarekrough said:
I use the same amp heads with many different cabs too.. I use a bit of everything.... But my first call amp is a Classic 30 combo with a few pedals as it is so easy to carry and still loud! But with my 5150 head and my Classic 50 head and my JCM 800 head i have various speakers i can use... A little Marshall 1x12 1912 cab i use a lot with my heads! I do use the 5150 cab once in a while when i feel like lugging... But i'm loving these little loud combos these days.
Case in point of a combo not being enough volume is a pro player i know loves Keith Moon and when he gets behind the kit and plays like Keith i need a stack just to hear myself!
WhoFan
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Re: half stack/full stack
All respect for the dead....if I had the chance to play with Keith Moon I probably would pass on it. To me I'm burnt out on playing with drummers that have to sell being loud as their "style." One of my oldest friends has been trying to do this for the better part of two decades and I refuse to play with him; I'm tired of dealing with folks that can't control themselves and refuse to believe that they can posess the discipline inherent in knowing dynamics.
I fully believe that it's bad drummers that play too loud and idiot guitar players that haul in 100 watt half-stacks to keep up that have made it so that karaoke and DJs now provide so much of the entertainment that goes on in clubs and bars. The shift from actively seeing a band live to passively going out to a bar with friends meant we needed to tread lightly and these idiots have killed it for alot of us.
Drummers that impress me are ones that I can talk to and give verbal cues while they play. It shows that they know restraint and they are actually actively listening to the other folks involved in making music.
WhoFan said:
All respect for the dead....if I had the chance to play with Keith Moon I probably would pass on it. To me I'm burnt out on playing with drummers that have to sell being loud as their "style." One of my oldest friends has been trying to do this for the better part of two decades and I refuse to play with him; I'm tired of dealing with folks that can't control themselves and refuse to believe that they can posess the discipline inherent in knowing dynamics.
I fully believe that it's bad drummers that play too loud and idiot guitar players that haul in 100 watt half-stacks to keep up that have made it so that karaoke and DJs now provide so much of the entertainment that goes on in clubs and bars. The shift from actively seeing a band live to passively going out to a bar with friends meant we needed to tread lightly and these idiots have killed it for alot of us.
Drummers that impress me are ones that I can talk to and give verbal cues while they play. It shows that they know restraint and they are actually actively listening to the other folks involved in making music.
