Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
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Lewguitar
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Hi Joe, I own two of those guitars...probably my favorite humbucker guitar I've ever owned. But the Custom in the neck had to go...just to dark, thick and powerful sounding except at very low volumes or with very powerful cleanish sounding amps.
I could sort of use it with my Super Reverb but through my smaller Fender Deluxes the tone was just to wooly.
I found it very difficult to get the clarity I need for jazzier blues styles. I replaced the Custom with a Seth Lover in one and with an Antiquity in the other.
I LOVE the way the Custom Custom sounds in those guitars and it combines beautifully with the Seth Lover neck and Antiquity neck.
Lew
I could sort of use it with my Super Reverb but through my smaller Fender Deluxes the tone was just to wooly.
I found it very difficult to get the clarity I need for jazzier blues styles. I replaced the Custom with a Seth Lover in one and with an Antiquity in the other.
I LOVE the way the Custom Custom sounds in those guitars and it combines beautifully with the Seth Lover neck and Antiquity neck.
Lew
it is infact the sh5 as far as i know and i sounds HUGE! matt smith (hamer clinician) and i played togeather a while back right when the monanco came out, really nice guitar.
the custom does sound huge and isnt the most conventional neck bucker but in the right hands it can scream, in a very thick way
the custom does sound huge and isnt the most conventional neck bucker but in the right hands it can scream, in a very thick way
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Lewguitar
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Mr. Loud said:
It is and it does.
Ah...that's not fair...it's not horrible as a neck pickup...but I didn't like it as a neck pickup. Great bridge pickup tho. I don't know what thier thinking is on that one either.
GREAT GUITARS otherwise tho! Lew
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Lewguitar
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Re: Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
It was a regular Duncan Custom in my Hamer Monoco Super Pros and I had two of those guitars for a while. It was not a neck model of the Custom. Only diff was that it had braided single coil cable and a nickel cover. It measured about 14.4K just like any other Duncan Custom. And, IMO, it was a woof monster. Way to thick, wooly and woofy. I replaced it with a Seth Lover neck pickup and was much happier. I also thought the Seth neck was a better match for the CC in the bridge position. Lew
It was a regular Duncan Custom in my Hamer Monoco Super Pros and I had two of those guitars for a while. It was not a neck model of the Custom. Only diff was that it had braided single coil cable and a nickel cover. It measured about 14.4K just like any other Duncan Custom. And, IMO, it was a woof monster. Way to thick, wooly and woofy. I replaced it with a Seth Lover neck pickup and was much happier. I also thought the Seth neck was a better match for the CC in the bridge position. Lew
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MonkeyDungologist
Re: Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
lew and jeremy would know.
i confused some poor dude on ebay a while ago, he must have been selling the pickups out of one of these and i didn't know about them; i'm like "they're both bridge pickups, and the SH-5 would go in the bridge, not the neck man!"
i feel a bit bad about it now.
i like stories.
lew and jeremy would know.
i confused some poor dude on ebay a while ago, he must have been selling the pickups out of one of these and i didn't know about them; i'm like "they're both bridge pickups, and the SH-5 would go in the bridge, not the neck man!"
i feel a bit bad about it now.
i like stories.
Gearjoneser
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Re: Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
Lew's suggestion of using a CC/Seth is probably right on the money. I like the Custom too, so I probably would have made a decision to try both the CC and Custom in the bridge and see which one I like more. I tend to like the Custom more than the CC. Despite the preconceived idea that ceramic magnets aren't toneful, the Custom is a very nice sounding pickup, especially on British type amps. The CC might fare better on 6L6's.
Lew's suggestion of using a CC/Seth is probably right on the money. I like the Custom too, so I probably would have made a decision to try both the CC and Custom in the bridge and see which one I like more. I tend to like the Custom more than the CC. Despite the preconceived idea that ceramic magnets aren't toneful, the Custom is a very nice sounding pickup, especially on British type amps. The CC might fare better on 6L6's.
Re: Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
I'm a Hamer fanboy and I've tried the Custom/CC combo in a guitar and thought it sounded very good (although I would have put in the option to split them both if I were Hamer). The way I try to explain it is that you should think of it as a "Super Duper PAF" set. They're just like Duncan's PAF sets in the sense that the neck and bridge are about the same output and the neck is a bit brighter. Except time 2! They sounded absolutely god-like with any sort of dirt on them, but the neck was obviously very dark for clean stuff (though not muddy; just very thick).
-Austin
I'm a Hamer fanboy and I've tried the Custom/CC combo in a guitar and thought it sounded very good (although I would have put in the option to split them both if I were Hamer). The way I try to explain it is that you should think of it as a "Super Duper PAF" set. They're just like Duncan's PAF sets in the sense that the neck and bridge are about the same output and the neck is a bit brighter. Except time 2!
They sounded absolutely god-like with any sort of dirt on them, but the neck was obviously very dark for clean stuff (though not muddy; just very thick).-Austin
Re: Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
The SH-5n comes from the the pickup I removed from my Monaco Elite. I replaced both stock pickups with Seth Lovers.
Jeremy said that the "n" designation just means that it's spaced for the neck, but I thought all SD humbuckers were spaced the same except for the trembuckers. Is that wrong? I just bought 1 15/16" chrome covers for my Seth Lovers, so I guess I'll find out when I replace them, but holding the covers up against the Custom & Custom Custom they looked to be the same spacing.
I guess only SD could tell us if there is a difference in the bridge and neck Custom model, but they aren't too responsive to emails.
And BTW, both the Custom & Custom Custom in my guitar had four connectors + shield, not one connector + shield.
Mark
The SH-5n comes from the the pickup I removed from my Monaco Elite. I replaced both stock pickups with Seth Lovers.
Jeremy said that the "n" designation just means that it's spaced for the neck, but I thought all SD humbuckers were spaced the same except for the trembuckers. Is that wrong? I just bought 1 15/16" chrome covers for my Seth Lovers, so I guess I'll find out when I replace them, but holding the covers up against the Custom & Custom Custom they looked to be the same spacing.
I guess only SD could tell us if there is a difference in the bridge and neck Custom model, but they aren't too responsive to emails.
And BTW, both the Custom & Custom Custom in my guitar had four connectors + shield, not one connector + shield.
Mark
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MonkeyDungologist
Re: Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
SD's regular size is actually narrower spacing than gibson bridges as well as "F-spacing".
my guess is that it's a regular-sized SH-5 with a single-conductor cable so they label it SH-5n to keep separate it from the standard 4-conductor
SD's regular size is actually narrower spacing than gibson bridges as well as "F-spacing".
my guess is that it's a regular-sized SH-5 with a single-conductor cable so they label it SH-5n to keep separate it from the standard 4-conductor
Re: Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
No, as I mentioned above it have 4 conductors. Also, it's resistance is 14.6k which seems a fair difference from the 14.1k advertised.
No, as I mentioned above it have 4 conductors. Also, it's resistance is 14.6k which seems a fair difference from the 14.1k advertised.
bartmcartman
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Re: Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
Doesn't the n just mean nickel? I agree that these pickups sound great driven but they are really mid range heavy clean.
Doesn't the n just mean nickel? I agree that these pickups sound great driven but they are really mid range heavy clean.
oilpit
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Re: Hamer Monaco: Custom Neck and CC bridge???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLmg2ENYphs
Sounds pretty freakin awesome if you ask me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLmg2ENYphs
Sounds pretty freakin awesome if you ask me...
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