Help-Amp Problem (i think)

Illini1330

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I was just recording through my bandmaster and MIM strat and I touched the strings with my arm while typing on the computer and I got shocked. I'm not sure what the shock was from but I want to know how it happened. Before my guiotars sounded fine through a SS amp, but now the guitar buzzes wildly until i touch metal, then it makes a pop sound and the buzz stops. Is the guitar not grounded properly, or is it the amp? This probem happens with all my guitars, too (5 of them).
 
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basic troubleshooting would indicate an issue with the amp. Does the amp have a ground prong on the plug?
 
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2 Prong = no ground. No ground = you get shocked. Try the guitar with another amp, and I bet it will stop. You'd be best to get a 3 prong cable installed, I bet you Scott or Lew could tell you how to do it yourself even.
 
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so the reason theres all the extra buzzing and popping is because of the cord? And I'm getting shocked cause of the type of cord?
 
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you need to get a 3 prong, like seriously, go get one installed because youll keep gettin shocked man......... and also the buzz could be partically subdued with a new grounded 3 prong plug, but i bet some buzz is from the old caps, may want to get it recapped
 
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I may be wrong but I believe the older bandmasters have a grond switch in the back. If you flip the switch it should solve the grounding problem. Putting a three prong plug won't help. The chord only has 2 wires in it. The other option is to turn the plug over in the wall. If the buzzing goes away you are properly grounded. Try turning the plug over first. If that doesn't fix it look for the "ground" switch in the back of the Amp. I have a '69 super which is a silver face and it has a ground switch in the back of it!
 
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It has an input on the back side of the chasis that looks like a input on a wall. What does this do?
 
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I flipped the gropund switch, but that only helped a little. The buzzing is quieter but there is still buzz until i touch metal. I flipped the plug second, and the buzzing went back to loud and poping. I the switched the gorund switch again and the buzzinf got quieter again.
 
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If you are playing with Single coil PUPS you are experiencing 60 cycle Hum. Thats what it sounds like. It will not go away completlely with single coils. If you have a guitar with a Humbucking PUP try it. If it is quiet you should be OK. The hum will get louder if you play with a OD/Distortion box. Consider this normal with SC. IF the Hum is significant with HB something is wrong internally.
 
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theres also a possibly of pup hum or possibly bad guitar grounding......or a combination of everything....eh..
 
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It sounds the same through my Les Paul, too. Theres a loud buzz untill i touch metal then it goes quiet. The first buzz is half better since the ground switch has been flipped. But It's not hum from the pups. I don't thinkk its the guitar because when I touch metal on the amp, the buzz goes away.
 
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id say you need a 3 prong plug man, get the in there first and then go from there
 
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It sounds like your Bandmaster has not been properly "restored" or serviced and is probably not safe to play. Definitely have a 3-wire power cord installed ASAP, not just a 3-prong plug added. Your safety is at stake, don't play it until you get the cord replaced.

The outlet on the back of the chassis is simply that, another outlet that you can plug something else into, like a stand alone reverb unit for instance.

And someone else mentioned this, but if you still have a 2-wire power cord chances are excellent that the filter caps have not been replaced yet either. This will crap up your tone and if they fail could take other components with them.

Take it to a tech, get a 3-wire power cord which will ground the chassis properly, have them remove connection to the ground switch as it does no good with a 3-wire config, remove the "death cap" if it has one, replace all filter caps, and give the board components (caps and resistors) a good going over. The bias cap should probably be replaced too.

The power cord/ground switch/death cap fix is all one deal and should only cost about $25-30 to have done. A complete filter cap job is highly recommended as those caps really only last 10-20 years at most with the high voltage (~440V) that a Bandmaster runs at, (you might hear some 60 cycle hum from them too) and will be $100 or so. There are probably 5 large caps under the "dog house" or "can" on the outside of the chassis. Don't know what year or model circuit yours is but since the last Bandmasters (not Bandmaster Reverb right?) were made in the '70s. It needs parts and service for your and the amps safety.

Drop me an email if you have questions....
 
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