Help please?

[boingboing]

Hi.

I'd like to wire pickups to a 3 way, then to push pull coil split, then to output.

Does someone know how? Thanks!

 

[ZoSo0789]

Re: Help please?

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_1v_1t_3w_2pp

 

[boingboing]

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But without the volume and tone pots...

 

[CenterStaqeSilver]

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By eliminating the volume and tone control you theoretically gain in richer signal, getting closer to everything the pickups can capture. I read about this in a guitar construction book once. Blimy! Interesting idea, but you'd have to sit beside your amp all the time. For a studio guitar, that may not be a problem. I mean, why have all those controls duplicated, and in each case losing just a little bit more signal quality?

Once you've rid your guitar of V and T controls, replace the guitars wood body with 2" marble to be sure much more string vibration is transferred directly to the pickups and not absorbed by the mushy body wood.

One more thing: replace the normal truss rod with a solid aluminum or carbon fibre rod going right through the neck. That's enough for this weeks fixins!

 

[ZoSo0789]

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Ok.... then just subtract the pots. Wire the pickup's hot to the switch (where each respective pup goes to it's respective lug), and then solder each pup's red and white wires to two different switches in the exact same manner as if they were push/pulls

 

[boingboing]

Re: Help please?

By eliminating the volume and tone control you theoretically gain in richer signal, getting closer to everything the pickups can capture. I read about this in a guitar construction book once. Blimy! Interesting idea, but you'd have to sit beside your amp all the time. For a studio guitar, that may not be a problem. I mean, why have all those controls duplicated, and in each case losing just a little bit more signal quality?

Once you've rid your guitar of V and T controls, replace the guitars wood body with 2" marble to be sure much more string vibration is transferred directly to the pickups and not absorbed by the mushy body wood.

One more thing: replace the normal truss rod with a solid aluminum or carbon fibre rod going right through the neck. That's enough for this weeks fixins!

Lol

Well, you are right about the richer signal, and it's also because I don't have much tool at my disposal as well, so I'll keep it as simple as possible for now ;P

 

[boingboing]

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Ok.... then just subtract the pots. Wire the pickup's hot to the switch (where each respective pup goes to it's respective lug), and then solder each pup's red and white wires to two different switches in the exact same manner as if they were push/pulls

solder each pup's red and white wires to two different switches in the exact same manner as if they were push/pulls

Two different switches? I'm sorry, I'm confused...

Aren't the red and white supposed to go together and then the wire below goes to hot?

 

[ZoSo0789]

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solder each pup's red and white wires to two different switches in the exact same manner as if they were push/pulls

Two different switches? I'm sorry, I'm confused...

Aren't the red and white supposed to go together and then the wire below goes to hot?

I assume you have two pickups in the guitar and you were wanting the ability to split either one independently. So construct a coil split switch, with the switch's lugs facing you as the pot is installed in the guitar, the red and white wires are soldered to either of the middle lugs. Now, then a wire is connected the the lug right below that one and it is connected to ground. Since there are two 'columns' on a push/pull, you can either split both pickups at the same time, or you can split them up onto two different push/pulls. But since you wont be using push/pulls, you'll just have the switch itself.... which is literally the exact same

 

[DrNewcenstein]

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You will need switches in the guitar to split the pickups, unless you just want them split all the time and connected to the 3-way then to the output.

So you'll either have to use push-pull pots for the switches, bypassing the actual pot itself, or mount toggle switches in the knob holes that do the splitting.

 

[boingboing]

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You will need switches in the guitar to split the pickups, unless you just want them split all the time and connected to the 3-way then to the output.

So you'll either have to use push-pull pots for the switches, bypassing the actual pot itself, or mount toggle switches in the knob holes that do the splitting.

I have 2 push pull pots!

What I don't understand is where to send the wires and if my wiring is correct.

I get different results depending on where I wire the wires...

I can't switch pickups, the 3 way doesn't work and I don't understand how it works.

There is no instruction manual anywhere (for what I want to do, which is 2 Humbucker, 2 Push Pulls, 3 Way Switch), I have no idea which pin does what, what goes where and what does what.

The way I wired it up is just like the diagram in the first post, then I send my bridge ground to the ground of the output jack with the bare wire, and the green wire to the hot, then the output of the push pull to the hot.

I don't know what to do with the blue wire from the 3 way...

It thickens the sound when I wire it, and it doesn't mute the pickup when I switch it ???

And when I add the green and bare from the other pickup, the sound thickens as well... isn't the 3 way switch supposed to control which pickup gives a signal and which doesn't?

 

[boingboing]

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I assume you have two pickups in the guitar and you were wanting the ability to split either one independently.

Yeah.

And I'd like to switch between the two pickups, and I don't know how to wire that straight to the output jack.

When I plug both pickups green and bare to the output jack, it's as if the two were active, and the 3 way switch don't mute one or the other...???

I don't get how it's supposed to work...

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Help please?

The Green and Bare go to Ground, not to the Hot output.


Start with this diagram:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=1hum_1vol_split

Wire each pickup to their push/pull switches like this, but instead of the black going to the Volume control, wire it like this diagram:

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=tele_2hum


Then, instead of the black wire going to the Volume/Tone knobs, send it straight to the Output jack.

 

[boingboing]

Re: Help please?

:bigeyes:

Could this possibly be the solution to my problem!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU! I hope it works!!

I couldn't switch the pickups before with my 3 way, I hope it works now

By the way, the Jazz sounds better than the JB for rhythm in the bridge of my guitar... :crazy:

But the JB has a cool low end though

Hmm... lol :sleepy: