help with hand fatigue while playing

marty_the_westie

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Whenever I play a classic blues shuffle where your playing a power chord and your pinky alternates on the 2 and 4 beat, my hand, specifically the top of my hand starts to get sore and tired after about only 2 times through a 12 bar blues. Is there some kind of exercise that I can do to strengthen the muscles in my hand. I've been playing for about 2 years, and would of thought that I could of got past that by now. It's really quite frustrating.
 
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just keep practicing that same blues pattern. slow it down a bit and maybe try playing it higher up on the neck where you won't have to stretch your hand so much to play it. then move it down the neck into different keys as u build up your strength. I don't know of any exercise other than playing scales and stuff like that. It's pretty simple to make up your own exercises and playing them in different rhythms too.
 
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Maybe it's the position your hand is in. Try raising your guitar, you might be more comfortable.
 
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It is true that when I raise the neck on the guitar, it lessens the angle on my wrist, which lessens the straign. It does, however, look really gay holding it like that, plus I do not really see anybody else holding the neck anything but pretty much horizontal. I thought that if I played that regularly, it would get easier, which it is, just VERY slowly.
 
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marty_the_westie said:
It is true that when I raise the neck on the guitar, it lessens the angle on my wrist, which lessens the straign. It does, however, look really gay holding it like that, plus I do not really see anybody else holding the neck anything but pretty much horizontal. I thought that if I played that regularly, it would get easier, which it is, just VERY slowly.

I play above horizontal all the time.

Think of it this way: What's worse, looking funny, or developing Carpal Tunnel Syndrome? :burnout:
 
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It could be your guitar neck. Thin necks tend to wear out the hands faster than really fat necks. One of the many many reasons the blues is played on Strats and not Ibeenhads. If it is the guitar neck (go to the shop, find the biggest neck you can find, and play some blues), then you've got your answer. The solution? Either a new guitar, or a new neck. If you dont wanna spend that much, Johnson strats have pretty big necks, they sound good, nice light body, and they're only 99 bucks.
 
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marty_the_westie said:
It is true that when I raise the neck on the guitar, it lessens the angle on my wrist, which lessens the straign. It does, however, look really gay holding it like that, plus I do not really see anybody else holding the neck anything but pretty much horizontal. I thought that if I played that regularly, it would get easier, which it is, just VERY slowly.

well, we wouldn't want to look 'gay'. really, your guitar is too low, changing the angles of your wrists will solve it. does this happen when sitting down?
 
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You could be pressing too hard also. You dont need alot of pressure on the fingerboard to have your notes ring out nicely.

I had tendonitis for over a year-I still have to be careful when I play.
 
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I used to have a simialr problem. I used one of those spring loaded finger and hand excercise machines (I forget what they are called). I also would play the same thing that bothered me over and over but, at a slower pace. The slower pace is actually harder than doing the same thing at speed. Also, a different neck can help also but, if you build up strength and thuss stamina, you will be able to play it all night long on any neck.
 
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I'm in the same situation as you. I've been playing for about 2 years and just put together a band to play next month at college. My roomate and I mess around playing at home but nothing serious. Practicing in a full band situation in the most playing I have done in a while. We have a very long song we wrote that is all the blues shuffle with lots of room to go crazy on solo's. My hand started hurting like hell the other night while playing. My neck on that guitar is very thin so I just raised the angle to take some relief off of my wrist. I think I'm gonna use my tele for that one with it's thicker neck. But don't think it's just you, we are at the same stage playing wise and it's happing to me. I know my hand will strenghten with time and practice and it is flustrating but just something that will come in time.
 
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the petrucci video has many hand exercises and warm ups that may help. lifting the guitar helps.
 
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A 35yr old using the term 'gay' in that context makes me chuckle.

I don't think there's any easy solution. A different neck may help but there's really no substitute for practice, practice, practice.

If your serious, just keep playing similar cord progressions for however long per night and you'll develop the muscles in your hands.
 
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Well I think you have worse problems than looking 'gay' judging by your avatar you might want to see someone about those ears :burnout:

If your hand fatigues easily all the time you probably have a neck contour that isn't right for you. If it really only happens in the alternating pinky scenario then it is likely neck angle. Why do you think Page used to be seen with his guitar going almost straight up and down?
 
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Your bridge should be about level with your hip and the wrist on your fretting hand should be as strait as possible. That's how high the guitar should be regardless of how it looks. You won't hurt your wrist, and you'll get maximum leverage. I know we see all these "rock stars" with axes slung low and their thumbs wrapped over the top of the fret board. Not the right way to hold a guitar, or so I learned long ago. (been playing for 13 years and I don't have carpul tunnel..yet!)
 
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Play strapped up high, proudly stick keep your wrist out there in a comfortable and 'gay' position, and try to relax and use a light touch. Tension is bad for your fret hand!
 
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inter said:
A 35yr old using the term 'gay' in that context makes me chuckle.

Wattage said:
Well I think you have worse problems than looking 'gay' judgung by your avatar you might want to see someone about those ears :burnout:

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

After going through a few years of trying to improve and develop my technique with this chord grip approach (I finally decided to really start stretching my hands cuz I wanted to be able to play "The House Is Rockin" by SRV) here's some suggestions i can offer.

Neck thickness: I've been able to do it on thinner necks but flatter c shapes an Ibanez types seem to be the most troublesome (not that boatnecks are any more comfy though... i have small hands) because they do not allow your hand to grip with a comfortable amount of space between the thumb joint/butt of your hand and your palm. Strat-like necks and slightly shallower Paul necks seem to work best for hand comfort.

Grip strength: Press only as hard down as you have to to get a good steady tone. Too hard results in early hand fatigue and too little results in wimpy tone and bad intonation.

Finger useage: Do some exercises to strengthen your pinky... a lot of people underuse that finger so when it comes time to play a Blues shuffle they're in trouble. As far as actually exercising the shuffle pattern, I'd practice variations of it on the 6th, 5th, and 4th strings and move from the upper registers on down to the lower frets... this will give your hand time to warm itself up and get used to a little more of a stretch each step down.

practice regimen: Like I said it took me a year or so before I could do it really well, in any position i wanted and within any meter without pain. Its just a matter of pumping iron and getting your hands stretched out and used to it and getting the muscles in there conditioned. Like i said i have small hands so this makes things a tad more difficult for me but i have no problem getting around on the fretboard. After almost 7 years of playing guitar, my left hand has adapted to be able to strectch about 2 cm longer than my other hand in an open-palm spread measuring pinky tip to thumb tip. anyway just build up your strength... but if you feel pain stop and let it go away or try some special hand massages. Do NOT work through the pain. Minor discomfort is normal but sharp or burning pain is not. If that happens your hands are telling you to stop.

Guitar height: If your knees are banging the tremolo plate of your Strat or the back of your Paul when you stand up you might have it a tad too low. Likewise if the top strap button is shoved up your right nostril you might have it too high. ;) When adjusting guitar height comfort should always be the first thing. Sure you can sling it Jimmy-Page low but I've never seen a standing pic of him where the guitar's neck wasn't at a 45-degree angle or higher. Having it Petrucci or Dave Matthews-high might not be for you either but the idea is to find the best guitar height for your style. It's affect the neck angle and the neck angle will affect your hand posture an your hand posture is directly linked to the health and the condition of that wonderful little bundle of bones, muscles, blood vessels and nerves you rely upon so heavily. If you're concerned about lookin ghey then thats your problem but would you rather wear your guitar higher and have an easier time playing, or would you rather look un-ghey but struggle with voicings and develop hand problems? I play strat-types mostly and have the bottom curve of the guitar about even with my belt line. Any higher and it feels weird and any loer and it just gets harder and harder to play as it goes down.

Hope that helps. :smoker:
 
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ok, this is the way I detemine guitar height. When you practice sitting down, have the guitar on your right leg, right? Now, adjust the strap so the weight is on your back when you sit, not your leg, like 1" above your thigh (when sitting straight). The reason is that when you stand, the guitar will be the same height when you sit and practice- and the angles of your wrists will remain consistant. Also, you do not have to bend your back to meet your guitar if it is sitting on your leg. Some people complain about their back hurting when they practice- it is because it is bent in a 'C' shape to meet the guitar. People also complain about not being able to play as well standing up. This is because the angles of the wrists change, therefore the muscles work differently.
 
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