Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster

[some_dude]

Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster

SG.

Tele's look like the deformed, ugly sibling of the Stratocaster, particularily the headstock.

 

[blueman335]

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yup, intelligent and informed, so long as they agree with you right?

Necks: This point always comes up in gibson vs fender debates. should we make a new forum - the Neck Swap Lounge? how often does anyone swap necks?? i hardly think that's a reason to favor a certain kind of guitar, given the extremely low chance that you'll break it.

+1. I can't imagine swapping a neck on a guitar. Pretty bizarre. What percentage of players have actually swapped their bolt-on necks? And if you are in a high risk group for breaking necks, you probably should be playing something more rugged, like a tuba.

And yes, seeing eye-to-eye with me is one method I use to gauge a person's intelligence. What more proof would you need?

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

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And yes, seeing eye-to-eye with me is one method I use to gauge a person's intelligence. What more proof would you need?

How about proof of your level of intelligence?

 

[Philcguitars]

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It was hard at first, as I like the SG look, until I started listing the pros and cons of both guitars.

Once I'd considered the wider variety of... Pickup options, Bridges, Neck & Body woods available, Finishes, interchangeability of necks, ability to not have to deal with only 2 factories owned by the same company, yada yada...

TELECASTER wins leaving the SG still in the stalls!

 

[blueman335]

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The reason I bring up the neck swap thing is because some people seem hell-bent on deriding Fender at all costs—

Hmmm... Funny how this works. I checked out some Strat threads on this forum a couple years ago, and couldn't believe what they were saying, and this was on a number of their threads. That Gibson players were "untalented & tone deaf"; pretty much unwashed pagans on the outer fringes of society, subhumans. I thought it was a joke at first, but nobody laughed. They were serious, and the whole group chimed in like parrots. No one spoke up and asked for moderation. I posted a few times to point out some of the flaws of Fender designs (and unlike them, used no personal attacks on Fender owners), and almost had death threats against me. These are some pretty mixed up guys.

So if I have a laugh at Fender once in a while what's the harm? I'm balancing the incoherent tirades of the insecure Strat boys, and I never ridicule any one personally or get belligerent. No one here has criticized Gibson more than I have. I have a laundry list of Gibson blunders and don't hesitate to express them. But my gripes with both guitar camps are the designs & some of the clueless people running the companies. I have said many times that there are Strat players that sound great that I admire. So maybe some guys shouldn't take this forum too seriously. Nothing said here should cause anyone to lose sleep.

 

[blueman335]

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SG. Tele's look like the deformed, ugly sibling of the Stratocaster, particularily the headstock.

That Tele headstock takes some getting used to. Maybe in another 10 or 20 years I'll start to warm up to it. Actually, Strats are the refined child of the primitive Tele.

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

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Hmmm... Funny how this works. I checked out some Strat threads on this forum a couple years ago, and couldn't believe what they were saying, and this was on a number of their threads. That Gibson players were "untalented & tone deaf"; pretty much unwashed pagans on the outer fringes of society, subhumans. I thought it was a joke at first, but nobody laughed. They were serious, and the whole group chimed in like parrots. No one spoke up and asked for moderation. I posted a few times to point out some of the flaws of Fender designs (and unlike them, used no personal attacks on Fender owners), and almost had death threats against me. These are some pretty mixed up guys.

So if I have a laugh at Fender once in a while what's the harm? I'm balancing the incoherent tirades of the insecure Strat boys, and I never ridicule any one personally or get belligerent. No one here has criticized Gibson more than I have. I have a laundry list of Gibson blunders and don't hesitate to express them. But my gripes with both guitar camps are the designs & some of the clueless people running the companies. I have said many times that there are Strat players that sound great that I admire. So maybe some guys shouldn't take this forum too seriously. Nothing said here should cause anyone to lose sleep.

My sincere apologies. I don't recall those anti-Gibson threads, and I didn't realize you were a fan of some Strat sounds. I took much of what you've said in the past as a Fender-can-do-no-right stance, and clearly my inference was wrong. As I've said before, I like Gibson and Fender, so I don't take sides as much as I do defend each manufacturer's positive qualities.

I'm not losing any sleep, and I'm glad you're not either. :friday:

- Keith

 

[sosomething]

Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster

Tele wins.

I like SGs, they are cool, but Tele wins.

A Tele can sound like practically anything, but only a Tele can sound like a Tele.

If that statement doesn't make sense to you, then you haven't played a Tele enough.

 

[lex666]

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As of today, its a dead heat... 22 votes for both...

I voted SG. When I first picked up an SG, it was sonic bliss. The tone and the feel, was perfect for me.

I've tried on several occasions to get it on with a Tele. It just wasn't for me. It felt heavy and blocky. The tone was not what I was looking for. And the comfort and feel I just couldn't get used to, which was very surprising since I'm used to heavy and bulky guitars like LP's and Explorers.

Something about the Tele I was just never able bond with. It really fely like boat paddle, IMO. I totally love the way Strats feel and play, but the Tele was a totally different instrument. I totally admire those who are able to extract sweet tone from them 'cuz I find them a chore to play.

 

[some_dude]

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That Tele headstock takes some getting used to. Maybe in another 10 or 20 years I'll start to warm up to it. Actually, Strats are the refined child of the primitive Tele.

Yeah. If I ever wanted a Tele I'd buy an ASAT, but I'm a bigger fan of Strats so that's not likely to happen.

 

[Pink Unicorn Horsey]

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If I ever wanted a Tele I'd buy an ASAT.

w00t

 

[blueman335]

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My sincere apologies. I don't recall those anti-Gibson threads, and I didn't realize you were a fan of some Strat sounds. I took much of what you've said in the past as a Fender-can-do-no-right stance, and clearly my inference was wrong. As I've said before, I like Gibson and Fender, so I don't take sides as much as I do defend each manufacturer's positive qualities.

I'm not losing any sleep, and I'm glad you're not either. :friday:

- Keith

Since I don't own a Fender or pay much attention to them (except what I read here), I don't know much of the insider stuff. But let me tell you, I'm amazed at some of the questionable decisions Gibson's made over the years. The designs from the late 1940's to mid 1960's (the McCarty years) were what I think are the world's best. What the company's done since then sometimes doesn't live up to their past accomplishments & technological breakthroughs. One reason Fender is the size it is, is because Gibson missed some opportunites.

I think every fan of Gibson & its copies will admit to a lifelong passion for what Hendrix did with his Strats.

 

[uOpt]

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+1. I can't imagine swapping a neck on a guitar. Pretty bizarre. What percentage of players have actually swapped their bolt-on necks? And if you are in a high risk group for breaking necks, you probably should be playing something more rugged, like a tuba.

I do. I want to know much the sound changes with necks, playability, scalloped etc.

 

[Benjy_26]

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+1. I can't imagine swapping a neck on a guitar. Pretty bizarre. What percentage of players have actually swapped their bolt-on necks? And if you are in a high risk group for breaking necks, you probably should be playing something more rugged, like a tuba.

And yes, seeing eye-to-eye with me is one method I use to gauge a person's intelligence. What more proof would you need?

I've swapped plenty of necks and bodies. Maybe I'm strange.

 

[alex1fly]

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And if you are in a high risk group for breaking necks, you probably should be playing something more rugged, like a tuba.

though if you break a tuba you're out many thousands of dollars... :cool2:

 

[Gamera]

Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster

There is no "SG tone."

I was thinking the same thing actually. As far as polls go I admit I kinda hate Tele's and SG's equally but at least I recognize a Tele as offering something different tonewise. Is there a signature SG sound?

 

[Frantic_Rock]

Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster

Why decide? Have both!

Apples or oranges? Have both

 

[Gamera]

Re: Here we go again...Sg vs telecaster

I think one of the reasons I'm not a fan of either of these guitars is that they're some of the only guitars I know that I can't disassociate from a stereotype.

Teles = bad country music

SGs = whiny emo rockers

 

[blueman335]

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There is no "SG tone." (Yeah, I said it)

I've got a few SG's, and yes there is a SG tone. Take off some of an LP's low-end and mids, add a bit more treble and bite, and you have an SG. Not radically different than an LP, after all, you're dealing with HB's & mahogany, but the EQ is shifted upwards. Crunch & warmth without the woofiness. Along with that comes reduced weight & full neck access. Part of the SG sound is that it frees you to use the entire neck. And it's a great alternative to an LP if a 10 lb guitar is a problem for you.

Putting in various Duncans & Gibsons, and a few magnet swaps, I get some great ballsy, cutting sounds from my SG's. Clapton in Cream is a guiding light. And Angus ain't bad either.

 

[veryhungrycaterpilla]

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I have never played an SG I liked. Ugh.

Me loves Teles.

Easy poll.