So, I love my Allston amps and they cover a ton of tones, but I think I'd like to have a head on hand for the occasions for rock and metal tones... I'd like to get something of quality and good reliability and am open to getting something used. I've been looking into Blackstar Series heads, Peavey XXX II heads and even the JSX head (I'd pull two tubes from the power section). I'd love to get that modified marshall kind of sound and would like to get something with a decent clean tone for when it is needed. ANy suggestions or ideas?
High Gain 50 Watter for under $1k used for rock to metal?
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I also just had the thought about getting a different preamp to run through the power amp of either of these amps, that are fitted with 6l6s. This could be more affordable and be an easier foot print for taking u space? AMT electronics makes some cool pieces it seems. It doesn't need to be over the top, but something that can do well with a cover gig that's anything from ZZ top to Dio, you know?
I also just had the thought about getting a different preamp to run through the power amp of either of these amps, that are fitted with 6l6s. This could be more affordable and be an easier foot print for taking u space? AMT electronics makes some cool pieces it seems. It doesn't need to be over the top, but something that can do well with a cover gig that's anything from ZZ top to Dio, you know?
DMR
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I see plenty of 50w Mesa Single Rectifiers on CL for around $600. Usually go for around $7-800 on eBay. Having enough gain is not an issue there and it has plenty of tonal versatility. I run mine through a 2x12 closed back cab w/ V30's and it sounds huge, even at low volumes. Put a good OD in front and it gets even better. I'm using the Richie Kotzen OMG in front and it sounds great.
I see plenty of 50w Mesa Single Rectifiers on CL for around $600. Usually go for around $7-800 on eBay. Having enough gain is not an issue there and it has plenty of tonal versatility. I run mine through a 2x12 closed back cab w/ V30's and it sounds huge, even at low volumes. Put a good OD in front and it gets even better. I'm using the Richie Kotzen OMG in front and it sounds great.
allbutromeo
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This is where Guitar Center's used gear page is your friend. Lots of Mesa Single Rectifiers, EH 5150 III (50w), Orange AD30s, and a few Marshall JVM 205s, VHT Pitt bull 45s, and I saw an Engle Fireball 60, and Orange Rockerverb 50. Lots of options
This is where Guitar Center's used gear page is your friend. Lots of Mesa Single Rectifiers, EH 5150 III (50w), Orange AD30s, and a few Marshall JVM 205s, VHT Pitt bull 45s, and I saw an Engle Fireball 60, and Orange Rockerverb 50. Lots of options
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yes, GCs used inventory is a solid option. I always have the item shipped to my local GC, because it is right next to my office in Boston. That way if it shows up damaged/DOA or doesn't show at all, I am not a variable in the equation and it's a good CYA move.
yes, GCs used inventory is a solid option. I always have the item shipped to my local GC, because it is right next to my office in Boston. That way if it shows up damaged/DOA or doesn't show at all, I am not a variable in the equation and it's a good CYA move.
mwalluk
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For someone who owned multiple Marshalls (JCM 2000 DSL & TSL, JTM), Carvins (Legacy, X100B), Mesas (Rectoverb, Tremoverb), Randalls (Rm50, Rm100), VHT Deliverance sixty, Jet City, Peavy XXX, Peavy 5150, amongst a few more, I honestly prefer my BLACKSTAR over all those.
For someone who owned multiple Marshalls (JCM 2000 DSL & TSL, JTM), Carvins (Legacy, X100B), Mesas (Rectoverb, Tremoverb), Randalls (Rm50, Rm100), VHT Deliverance sixty, Jet City, Peavy XXX, Peavy 5150, amongst a few more, I honestly prefer my BLACKSTAR over all those.
Re: High Gain 50 Watter for under $1k used for rock to metal?
This. I bought my rectoverb series 1 head for 600$ shipped and I'm in Canada, so I'm guessing you could find better deals still for those 50W rectifiers, both single rectos and rectoverbs. They're great for what you require. IMHO of course.
This. I bought my rectoverb series 1 head for 600$ shipped and I'm in Canada, so I'm guessing you could find better deals still for those 50W rectifiers, both single rectos and rectoverbs. They're great for what you require. IMHO of course.
SirJackdeFuzz
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Re: High Gain 50 Watter for under $1k used for rock to metal?
90's era 5150 . . . it is a NO BRAINER !
90's era 5150 . . . it is a NO BRAINER !
SirJackdeFuzz
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NOT the 1st amp you think of when you think Metal, but even the Vintage Modern can do metal-like tones if you want it too.
GREAT Hard Rock amp though !
NOT the 1st amp you think of when you think Metal, but even the Vintage Modern can do metal-like tones if you want it too.
GREAT Hard Rock amp though !
soulforger
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JSX, you can buy one for half that, no need to pull power tubes, it has a 50% power switch. Also you can run 6L6 or EL34/KT77s, killer classic crunch to high gain. Or an original UK made JCM 2000 50w, you can find them for $5-600..Maiden's guitarists still use them...so does Jeff Beck, so can definitely do classic to high gain..
JSX, you can buy one for half that, no need to pull power tubes, it has a 50% power switch. Also you can run 6L6 or EL34/KT77s, killer classic crunch to high gain. Or an original UK made JCM 2000 50w, you can find them for $5-600..Maiden's guitarists still use them...so does Jeff Beck, so can definitely do classic to high gain..
SirJackdeFuzz
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VHT Pitbull CL 50watt head can be had for very close to 1K !!!
VHT Pitbull CL 50watt head can be had for very close to 1K !!!
Wattage
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Re: High Gain 50 Watter for under $1k used for rock to metal?
I swear I was going to say get a XXX and pull 2 tubes
I swear I was going to say get a XXX and pull 2 tubes
soulforger
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If you look into the Peaveys, remember:
3120 = XXX (original, was to be George Lynch's first signature amp with Peavey, the Penta was to be the second, but Lynch split again!)
XXX II = JSX
Butcher = JSX 50 (never released as Joe switched to Marshall right at the time the amp was being readied for release, another great amp though, and is 100w with a half power switch as well, listen to Chickenfoot's first album. Everything that is kind of mid gain, crunchy, was recorded with it, the higher gain stuff like Avenida and Soap on a Rope...original JSX (120w).
If you look into the Peaveys, remember:
3120 = XXX (original, was to be George Lynch's first signature amp with Peavey, the Penta was to be the second, but Lynch split again!)
XXX II = JSX
Butcher = JSX 50 (never released as Joe switched to Marshall right at the time the amp was being readied for release, another great amp though, and is 100w with a half power switch as well, listen to Chickenfoot's first album. Everything that is kind of mid gain, crunchy, was recorded with it, the higher gain stuff like Avenida and Soap on a Rope...original JSX (120w).
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