John_L
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Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
I like the style of the slot stop which works well, although Framus do it better.
I like the style of the slot stop which works well, although Framus do it better.
Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
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ImmortalSix
John Mayer's Mankini
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
It's true.
Also, your should check your skepticism. What you know is your view from a telescope. What you don't is the night sky.
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FWIW I like the bridge design. It looks like a high-mass, high-contact affair. I think those who feel it doesn't match the look of the guitar are only saying so because they're used to the traditional, highly-radiused TOM/Stop tails on SC guitars.
It's true.
Also, your should check your skepticism. What you know is your view from a telescope. What you don't is the night sky.
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FWIW I like the bridge design. It looks like a high-mass, high-contact affair. I think those who feel it doesn't match the look of the guitar are only saying so because they're used to the traditional, highly-radiused TOM/Stop tails on SC guitars.
ImmortalSix
John Mayer's Mankini
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
All my posts are sig-worthy.
All my posts are sig-worthy.
Luke Duke
PRSlustologist
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
You've got two tiny allen screws to adjust the bridge front to back on the posts, but that design is solid. My McCarty has amazing intonation.
If that's a copy then is the LP a copy of a Telecaster?
I do like the one piece bridge. It gives a different feel and look, not to mention less clutter...visually.
Wooaaah
I'm with Adam, I like the look. Just a bit different, kind of like the Dean tailpieces. I can get behind that.
Luke
You've got two tiny allen screws to adjust the bridge front to back on the posts, but that design is solid. My McCarty has amazing intonation.
If that's a copy then is the LP a copy of a Telecaster?
I do like the one piece bridge. It gives a different feel and look, not to mention less clutter...visually.
It's true.
Also, your should check your skepticism. What you know is your view from a telescope. What you don't is the night sky.
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FWIW I like the bridge design. It looks like a high-mass, high-contact affair. I think those who feel it doesn't match the look of the guitar are only saying so because they're used to the traditional, highly-radiused TOM/Stop tails on SC guitars.
Wooaaah
I'm with Adam, I like the look. Just a bit different, kind of like the Dean tailpieces. I can get behind that.
Luke
John_L
New member
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
I like the slot tail as well, and the bridge they have looks good. I'm sure that this is combination they had on the prototype McCarty I played in 93, although I think the bridge is newer (They did use this slot tail on non trem customs between 89 and 94 according to a PRS collector site). I'm not that anti the wrap over as on the 25" it will cope with a half step drop (the 24.5 is a bit more knife edge). As a finger style player my hand is so far above the bridge it isn't an issue what it is like for me, although I do know some people who like to rest their hand on the top of a TOM style bridge and this one perhaps isn't as user friendly for that.
I also like the look of this. PRS' take on the Framas Akkerman which influenced him in the 70's? It even has a Framus style head although not the switching of the Akkerman which influenced the Custom switching.
http://prsguitars.com/ja15/index.php
I like the slot tail as well, and the bridge they have looks good. I'm sure that this is combination they had on the prototype McCarty I played in 93, although I think the bridge is newer (They did use this slot tail on non trem customs between 89 and 94 according to a PRS collector site). I'm not that anti the wrap over as on the 25" it will cope with a half step drop (the 24.5 is a bit more knife edge). As a finger style player my hand is so far above the bridge it isn't an issue what it is like for me, although I do know some people who like to rest their hand on the top of a TOM style bridge and this one perhaps isn't as user friendly for that.
I also like the look of this. PRS' take on the Framas Akkerman which influenced him in the 70's? It even has a Framus style head although not the switching of the Akkerman which influenced the Custom switching.
http://prsguitars.com/ja15/index.php
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Lewguitar
Guest
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
When I was at NAMM a few years ago, the then newly re-released PRS Single Cut was the only piece of gear I auditioned that I was truly smitten by. The models Curly and I played all had the wrap around bridge/tailpiece.
However, I have to say that compared to a wrap around bridge/tailpiece, I've always found a separate TOM bridge and stop tailpiece, like PRS has gone to now, to sound better to me. Fuller and warmer...less steely. Also, my hand likes to rest on the strings between the bridge and tailpiece so I find that design more comfortable and better sounding.
I've owned a couple of virtually identical Hamers with the only diff being the TOM bridge and stop tailpiece design vs. a Gibson style combination bridge/stop tailpiece. Back in the 60's I had both a '55 Les Paul with bridge/tailpiece and a '56 Les Paul with the TOM & stop tailpiece.
The guitars I've owned with the TOM bridge & separate stop tailpiece have always sounded just a little better to me than those with the one piece bridge/tailpiece design.
Of course, the angle of the neck is different too. You need to set the neck at a steeper angle if you're going to build a guitar with a TOM bridge and separate stop tailpiece.
That's the reason that converting a Gibson style guitar with a combination bridge/tailpiece to a TOM and stop tailpiece never worked. Lots of '55 Les Paul Gold Tops got ruined that way back in the 60's and 70's.
When I was at NAMM a few years ago, the then newly re-released PRS Single Cut was the only piece of gear I auditioned that I was truly smitten by. The models Curly and I played all had the wrap around bridge/tailpiece.
However, I have to say that compared to a wrap around bridge/tailpiece, I've always found a separate TOM bridge and stop tailpiece, like PRS has gone to now, to sound better to me. Fuller and warmer...less steely. Also, my hand likes to rest on the strings between the bridge and tailpiece so I find that design more comfortable and better sounding.
I've owned a couple of virtually identical Hamers with the only diff being the TOM bridge and stop tailpiece design vs. a Gibson style combination bridge/stop tailpiece. Back in the 60's I had both a '55 Les Paul with bridge/tailpiece and a '56 Les Paul with the TOM & stop tailpiece.
The guitars I've owned with the TOM bridge & separate stop tailpiece have always sounded just a little better to me than those with the one piece bridge/tailpiece design.
Of course, the angle of the neck is different too. You need to set the neck at a steeper angle if you're going to build a guitar with a TOM bridge and separate stop tailpiece.
That's the reason that converting a Gibson style guitar with a combination bridge/tailpiece to a TOM and stop tailpiece never worked. Lots of '55 Les Paul Gold Tops got ruined that way back in the 60's and 70's.
John_L
New member
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
I'm not sure about this. If the new TOM is flat enough then with that clamp down slot tail peice you wouldn't need a sharper neck angle than the wrapover PRS already had.
As for the gold top conversions, Les Paul himself had the first Goldtop Les Paul he was given converted to TOM by routing out below the bridge (as on a Godin) plus having his active pickups installed. Then refinished it in cherry burst.
I'm not sure about this. If the new TOM is flat enough then with that clamp down slot tail peice you wouldn't need a sharper neck angle than the wrapover PRS already had.
As for the gold top conversions, Les Paul himself had the first Goldtop Les Paul he was given converted to TOM by routing out below the bridge (as on a Godin) plus having his active pickups installed. Then refinished it in cherry burst.
XSSIVE
OCDologist
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
hahaha ya got me. however, i should have specified...
call me when they floyd a single cut that isn't a crazy priced private stock yet is a regular production model and doesn't have those silly birds flying all over the neck.
hahaha ya got me. however, i should have specified...
call me when they floyd a single cut that isn't a crazy priced private stock yet is a regular production model and doesn't have those silly birds flying all over the neck.
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Lewguitar
Guest
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
Thanks Luke! I've been in remission since January but it's only been in the past couple of months that I've been hearing music in my head like I used to. Chemo-brain...and it's finally starting to wear off. It's like having a smoke screen in my brain blocking fresh and creative thoughts from getting through to me from the real world to me in this world. :cool2:
My electric guitar skills are returning faster than my acoustic guitar skills. I'm still slow and clumsy on the acoustic guitar. Lighter gauge strings makes it easier to play electric I guess. Plus I've been playing electric guitar for 46 years and acoustic guitar for about 30. Maybe that makes a diff. The electric guitar is lodged a little deeper in my hard wiring or something.
On the Kluson style tuners note, I think the vintage guys who swear by Klusons and swear at Grovers are on to something. The Grovers may look cool, feel smoother and offer more precise tuning but all other things being equal, Kluson style tuners sound better to me. More lively and resonant.
Much like the diff in tone between a guitar with a lightweight aluminum stop tailpiece like 50's Les Paul's have vs. the heavier pot metal stop tailpieces Gibson used in the 60's, 70's and 80's.
I prefer the tone of an aluminum stop tailpiece like Gibson originally used.
Thanks Luke! I've been in remission since January but it's only been in the past couple of months that I've been hearing music in my head like I used to. Chemo-brain...and it's finally starting to wear off. It's like having a smoke screen in my brain blocking fresh and creative thoughts from getting through to me from the real world to me in this world. :cool2:
My electric guitar skills are returning faster than my acoustic guitar skills. I'm still slow and clumsy on the acoustic guitar. Lighter gauge strings makes it easier to play electric I guess. Plus I've been playing electric guitar for 46 years and acoustic guitar for about 30. Maybe that makes a diff. The electric guitar is lodged a little deeper in my hard wiring or something.
On the Kluson style tuners note, I think the vintage guys who swear by Klusons and swear at Grovers are on to something. The Grovers may look cool, feel smoother and offer more precise tuning but all other things being equal, Kluson style tuners sound better to me. More lively and resonant.
Much like the diff in tone between a guitar with a lightweight aluminum stop tailpiece like 50's Les Paul's have vs. the heavier pot metal stop tailpieces Gibson used in the 60's, 70's and 80's.
I prefer the tone of an aluminum stop tailpiece like Gibson originally used.
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astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
I think you took my post way too seriously. My tongue is forever planted firmly in cheek.
It's true.
Also, your should check your skepticism. What you know is your view from a telescope. What you don't is the night sky.
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FWIW I like the bridge design. It looks like a high-mass, high-contact affair. I think those who feel it doesn't match the look of the guitar are only saying so because they're used to the traditional, highly-radiused TOM/Stop tails on SC guitars.
I think you took my post way too seriously. My tongue is forever planted firmly in cheek.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
I read some stuff in this post I wish wasn't true.
KLUSON TUNERS?!
I read some stuff in this post I wish wasn't true.
KLUSON TUNERS?!
cvansickle
New member
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
Even though I'm a long-time Les Paul player, I think that PRS tailpiece just looks.... wrong.
Even though I'm a long-time Les Paul player, I think that PRS tailpiece just looks.... wrong.
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
You shut the hell up; I'll tell you where your tongue is planted.
Also:
HI LEW!!
You shut the hell up; I'll tell you where your tongue is planted.
Also:
HI LEW!!
sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
This thread has reached its fullest potential.
This thread has reached its fullest potential.
Kam
Shaftologist
Re: Holy Crap PRS have ditched the wrapover
Damn, beat me to it.
Quick Adam, say something else cool!!
Damn, beat me to it.
Quick Adam, say something else cool!!