Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

[Laimon]

Hi guys,

I bought a Hot Rodded set (SH2 and SH4) that I want to install on my guitar, but I've never done it before so I have a few questions.
My guitar is a Yamaha Pacifica 821 DX (http://images42.fotki.com/v1373/photos/9/911314/4490806/yamaha821dx-vi.jpg?1227830505), with a H-S-H configuration. The 5 switch selector currently selects the following combinations:

position 1: bridge humbucker
position 2: bridge humbucker split coil + single coil center
position 3: single coil center
position 4: neck humbucker split coil + single coil center
position 5: neck humbucker

With this new set I wanted instead to achieve the following combinations:

position 1: bridge humbucker
position 2: bridge humbucker split coil + neck humbucker split coil
position 3: bridge humbucker + neck humbucker
position 4: neck humbucker split coils (both) in parallel
position 5: neck humbucker

I have a normal "import" 5-way switch, and honestly from what I read on the web I understood close to nothing of how it works and the logic behind the connections.
Can anyone tell me whether the above setup can be achieved with the 5 switch selector (I have an ibanez that does, but it might be a different 5-switch selector), and if so how?
I also don't really know the meaning of the colors in the SD cables, where does each cable go/come from...

Thank you guys in advance for any help!

 

[Guitaraxz]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

The wiring you described is not possible with an impoert 5 way switch. For that wiring you would need a superswitch which is a drag to install, they have 24 lugs to solder! I suggest a Megaswitch P model http://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Online_Resources/Pickups_and_Electronics/P-Model_Megaswitch.html

Good luck!

 

[Laimon]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

The wiring you described is not possible with an impoert 5 way switch. For that wiring you would need a superswitch which is a drag to install, they have 24 lugs to solder! I suggest a Megaswitch P model http://www.stewmac.com/How-To/Online_Resources/Pickups_and_Electronics/P-Model_Megaswitch.html

Good luck!

I kind of imagined so, thanks anyway!
I am kind of reluctant to change the switch for now, maybe at a later point...what configurations could I obtain with this normal switch?
The priority for me would be:
1: Bridge hb
2: Neck hb
3: Bridge coil split (inner coil) + Neck coil split (inner coil)
4: Bridge hb + Neck hb

Could these 4 be achieved? Or at least the first 3?

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

What about your middle pup? Don't you ever want to use it?

No, you can't get those combinations with your switch.

 

[Laimon]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

What about your middle pup? Don't you ever want to use it?

No, you can't get those combinations with your switch.

No, I don't care too much for it. I am sure I should be able to achieve at least a subset of these configurations!

 

[Archer250]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

You could try wiring it normally and remove the magnet from the middle sc
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[GuitarDoc]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

If you're just going to use the bridge and neck humbuckers, just use a three way selector switch and a p/p or separate toggle to get the split mode you want.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_1v_1t_3w_1pp

 

[Laimon]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

If you're just going to use the bridge and neck humbuckers, just use a three way selector switch and a p/p or separate toggle to get the split mode you want.

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=2h_1v_1t_3w_1pp

I'm not really a fan of push-pull coil splitting, really.
I would rather be interested in hearing what combinations, among the ones I wrote in the initial post, can be achieved with this switch.

 

[Toe-Knee]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

Hi guys,

I bought a Hot Rodded set (SH2 and SH4) that I want to install on my guitar, but I've never done it before so I have a few questions.
My guitar is a Yamaha Pacifica 821 DX (http://images42.fotki.com/v1373/photos/9/911314/4490806/yamaha821dx-vi.jpg?1227830505), with a H-S-H configuration. The 5 switch selector currently selects the following combinations:

position 1: bridge humbucker
position 2: bridge humbucker split coil + single coil center
position 3: single coil center
position 4: neck humbucker split coil + single coil center
position 5: neck humbucker

With this new set I wanted instead to achieve the following combinations:

position 1: bridge humbucker
position 2: bridge humbucker split coil + neck humbucker split coil
position 3: bridge humbucker + neck humbucker
position 4: neck humbucker split coils (both) in parallel
position 5: neck humbucker

I have a normal "import" 5-way switch, and honestly from what I read on the web I understood close to nothing of how it works and the logic behind the connections.
Can anyone tell me whether the above setup can be achieved with the 5 switch selector (I have an ibanez that does, but it might be a different 5-switch selector), and if so how?
I also don't really know the meaning of the colors in the SD cables, where does each cable go/come from...

Thank you guys in advance for any help!

you can get pretty close to this with the Ibanez 5 way inline but they're pretty tough to get hold of as theyre custom switches.

The only difference is position 4 would be neck parrallel.

Oh actually thats just for 2 humbuckers

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

I'm not really a fan of push-pull coil splitting, really.
I would rather be interested in hearing what combinations, among the ones I wrote in the initial post, can be achieved with this switch.

Huh??

The "ones (you) wrote about in the initial post" DO involve coil splitting in positions 2 and 4.

 

[Laimon]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

Huh??

The "ones (you) wrote about in the initial post" DO involve coil splitting in positions 2 and 4.

I didn't say that I don't like coil splitting, I said that I don't like doing it with a push-pull knob ;-)

 

[GuitarDoc]

Re: Hot Rodded set and 5 switch selector - how do I route the whole thing?

I didn't say that I don't like coil splitting, I said that I don't like doing it with a push-pull knob ;-)

OK, I get it. That's fine. Instead of using a p/p, just substitute a toggle switch in its place...the connections are just the same.