how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

[\m/(00)\m/]

i've been wndering this for a long time now. why has no one ever thought of using adjustable saddles? i think it's be much better than what floyds usually have with the things on the side. i have 2 charvels, one has a vintage trem thats locked down onto the body(i dont need that trem) and one with a floyd rose. the one with the vintage trem has much better action than the one with the floyd. i like being able to adjust the action on each string, but with the floyds i cant do that.
would it even work?
why has no one done this? i think it'd be a much, much, much better idea than what they have now.

:question:

 

[aleclee]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

Actually, you can adjust the height but it's kind of a PITA. You have to shim the individual saddles (you can buy the shims from StewMac IIRC).

 

[\m/(00)\m/]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

but thsts too mcuh work

i like the idea of teh small allen heads on each saddle of a strat

 

[aleclee]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

Whaddya expect? It's not exactly a walk in the park to set the intonation on a Floyd, either.

 

[\m/(00)\m/]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

yeah but i like to know that i did something myself without adding anything onto the actual piece of hardware

i wonder if anyone makes adjustable saddles?

 

[Jono_L]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

Shimming floyd saddles honestly isnt that much work! Took me a couple of hours at most, and its a set and forget thing anyway. I cut up coke cans for it, and it works fine.

Don't know any manufacturers of adjustable saddles, since people have been using the shimming method for ages anyway. I can imagine that with saddles, you'd end up with a potential loose part, which may incur slight problems with tuning stability - and I can't really see how it can be done seeing as the strings on a floyd do not string through the trem block, hence, no string tension to hold the saddle downwards.

 

[some_dude]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

Is you're Floyd foating?

If it is, lower the bridge posts to lower your action.

You can also shim the neck so it has more of an angle.

My Strat has a tilt screw that you can use to adjust the neck angle, that way you can keep the Floyd sitting at the right hight (bottom parallel to the top of the body). My action's sitting at about 1mm & 0.8mm (low/high respectively).

The bitch part is that after adjusting the neck angle you need to retune the guitar, adjust the spring tension with the claw, retune, adjust, retune....until it's intune and back to parallel. Then you remeasure your action to see if it's where you want it.....

Of course, if you don't have a tilt screw, that process becomes alot longer, and it usually becomes easier to adjust the bridge studs and lower the whole bridge....even if it means you loose some of it's range (I can bend up a hair over 2.5 tones on mine).


As long as your guitar's neck was made for use with a Floyd, you really shouldn't need to adjust the hight of the individual saddles. They should match the curvature of the neck strait from the factory.

 

[theodie]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

Thats is the price one pays for having a double locking setup. I dont think it is all that bad to shim and intonate. Yeah, it takes longer but oh well.

 

[Zerberus]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

WD used to sell one that had adjustable height saddles. In Theory good, but in practice they quickly learned why it hadn´t been done before, the saddles were almost impossible to lock down securely.

I personally don´t shim, but grind. I feel that the tonal transfer is better, even though the difference is miniscule at best

 

[rspst14]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

There are several different heights available when it comes to Floyd saddles. If you have them set to match the neck radius, you shouldn't need to shim them, unless there is a problem with the way your guitar is set up.

Ryan

 

[\m/(00)\m/]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

i know how to adjust teh action it's just thati like my action a certain way. if i raise the high strings than the middle strings are too low. it's weird but i like my strings to follow the exact radius of the fret board. on the model 1 i have that but on the san dimas i dont.

now..

another question.

when i depress my floyd heavily, the low e goes out of tune. nothing else does though. then after it's back, i'll pull up and it'll be back in tune. whats going on? it'as not much of a problem as it doesnt go out of tune when i pull up hard but say if i go really far down and dont have time to pull up
what could be wrong here? im pretty sure i set it up right :wink:
and another one.
if i take out one spring, so it'd be 2 springs in the back, and i tighten the 2 springs will it mak eit more loose? the trem's kinda stiff with my strings and id like it more smooth.

 

[DeadSkinSlayer3]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

Your knife edges are worn, I believe.

 

[Grandor]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

another question.

when i depress my floyd heavily, the low e goes out of tune. nothing else does though. then after it's back, i'll pull up and it'll be back in tune. whats going on? it'as not much of a problem as it doesnt go out of tune when i pull up hard but say if i go really far down and dont have time to pull up
what could be wrong here? im pretty sure i set it up right :wink:
and another one.
if i take out one spring, so it'd be 2 springs in the back, and i tighten the 2 springs will it mak eit more loose? the trem's kinda stiff with my strings and id like it more smooth.

hahahahaha.
And yes if u take out one string the floyd will be easier and if u tighten screws yes the floyd will be more stiff.
Just make sure that the floyd stays against the body after all adjustments unless if u want floating...

 

[Gearjoneser]

Re: how come no floyds ever have adjustable saddles?

The Floyd saddles already have a certain amount of radius, don't they?....probably
10 or something? The only time I think it would be an issue is on a vintage strat with a 7.25 radius, and you rarely see those types of necks mated with a Floyd system.