How do the Jupiters differ from the Alpha/Omega set?

[BeyondAntares]

I have the Nazgul and Sentient on order and thinking of a complimentary yet different set for another guitar to double-track guitars. I'm looking for a modern metal ready pup set with good cleans, dynamics and heavy yet articulate crunch when run through distortion. I'm partial to either the Jupiters or the Alpha/Omega set. I'm struggling to decide between the two as there aren't any A/B tests on youtube.

I'm a big fan of Wes Hauch and the faceless and love the articulation so I was considering the Jupiters. Which neck pup would go well with it?

I'm also a fan of the pick attack and cleans of the Alpha / Omega set. Though I'm not the biggest periphery fan, I'm a fan of Monuments and keen to get something as articulate.

How do these two differ? I feel the rails setup would have an X2N / Dimebucker type sound? With the Alpha / Omega would these be similar to BKP's?
I never gelled with BKP's as it took a lot of painstaking adjustment to be happy with the tone.

 

[Bogner]

I haven't tried the Jupiter but have the Alpha/Omega in a few guitars and like them a lot. I also am a huge fan of BKP pickups and have several different sets installed in various guitars. Each pickup from both brands do their own thing. While there may be similar attributes amongst builders, nothing is exact. Which BKP are you thinking would be similar to the Alpha/Omega? Which pickup did you have to adjust? What guitar? What wood? What style do you play? Are these pickups going into that same guitar? These are all things to consider (and more that I didn't list).

 

[bloughlin16]

I’ve played the Jupiter bridge. It reminds me of a more compressed and higher output Omega with more low end, as well. I think it’s a great pickup, though possibly less versatile than the Omega as it definitely doesn’t clean up quite as well (and, IMO, the Omega isn’t particularly great for cleans as-is unless it’s split). If you don’t want the Jupiter neck, I’d suggest a Sentient.

 

[BeyondAntares]

I haven't tried the Jupiter but have the Alpha/Omega in a few guitars and like them a lot. I also am a huge fan of BKP pickups and have several different sets installed in various guitars. Each pickup from both brands do their own thing. While there may be similar attributes amongst builders, nothing is exact. Which BKP are you thinking would be similar to the Alpha/Omega? Which pickup did you have to adjust? What guitar? What wood? What style do you play? Are these pickups going into that same guitar? These are all things to consider (and more that I didn't list).

I had an Ibanez Jcustom RG8527z, Mahagony body, Ebony neck, walnut/bubinga neck. I ran that through a Hughes & Kettner triamp MKII. I tried the BKP Aftermaths when they first came out and it didn't vibe with me. It was too fat and full with no clarity. It felt like I had the tone knob rolled off when playing.
I rechecked the wiring and played around with the height and it didn't help. I ended up selling that guitar.

The guitars I'm looking to add pickups to are a Solar 7 string Explorer and a Solar Flying V. Both have Mahagony bodies with an ebony fretboard, maple neck. I fell in love with the nazgul and sentient combo and thought that would be good for rhythms and will use that for the explorer. For the flying V, I'd like to play more leads like Alexi Laiho and Edge of Sanity type rhythms.

I&#821I’ve played the Jupiter bridge. It reminds me of a more compressed and higher output Omega with more low end, as well. I think it’s a great pickup, though possibly less versatile than the Omega as it definitely doesn’t clean up quite as well (and, IMO, the Omega isn’t particularly great for cleans as-is unless it’s split). If you don’t want the Jupiter neck, I’d suggest a Sentient.

Thanks for this. I'm assuming the Alpha is a neck pickup. Would this pair well with Jupiter or better with a sentient?

 

[bloughlin16]

The Alpha could pair well with it. It’s a very particularly voiced neck pickup that I feel pairs especially well with the Omega, but it’s a vintage wind with not a whole lot of compression. It might be a little too underpowered for the Jupiter, but I could be wrong.

 

[dave74]

Neck cleans? Neck leads? Blended neck and bridge leads? Versatile neck that isn't great at any one thing but works OK for all?

 

[JB_From_Hell]

I feel the rails setup would have an X2N / Dimebucker type sound?

Have you tried the X2N or Dimebucker? Aside from both being high output, there's not much similarity between them. The X2N is very thick but balanced sounding, while the Dimebucker is really focused on the treble. The EMG 81 is also a rail pickup, and doesn't sound like either of them. My EBMM has a Crunch Lab with one rail coil, and again, no similarity to the others. I know this isn't totally on topic, but don't assume there's a sound inherent to pickups with rails rather than pole pieces.

 

[Overlord]

I had an Ibanez Jcustom RG8527z, Mahagony body, Ebony neck, walnut/bubinga neck. I ran that through a Hughes & Kettner triamp MKII. I tried the BKP Aftermaths when they first came out and it didn't vibe with me. It was too fat and full with no clarity. It felt like I had the tone knob rolled off when playing.
I rechecked the wiring and played around with the height and it didn't help. I ended up selling that guitar.

The guitars I'm looking to add pickups to are a Solar 7 string Explorer and a Solar Flying V. Both have Mahagony bodies with an ebony fretboard, maple neck. I fell in love with the nazgul and sentient combo and thought that would be good for rhythms and will use that for the explorer. For the flying V, I'd like to play more leads like Alexi Laiho and Edge of Sanity type rhythms.

If I'm not mistaken, Dan Swano from Edge of Sanity used a Duncan Designed HB-104, and a Full Shred in the past.

 

[dave74]

Have you tried the X2N or Dimebucker? Aside from both being high output, there's not much similarity between them. The X2N is very thick but balanced sounding, while the Dimebucker is really focused on the treble. The EMG 81 is also a rail pickup, and doesn't sound like either of them. My EBMM has a Crunch Lab with one rail coil, and again, no similarity to the others. I know this isn't totally on topic, but don't assume there's a sound inherent to pickups with rails rather than pole pieces.

Very true. The El Diablo and Slug are two more that differ a lot from any of the other rail designs on the market.