How do you define shred?

Re: How do you define shred?

there are two people:

one of them ties there shoe laces with a knot (it takes him 1 minute)
the other ties his shoe laces in a single knot and pokes them in the sides (this takes him 15 seconds)

pick the shredder?
 
Re: How do you define shred?

shredist said:
there are two people:

one of them ties there shoe laces with a knot (it takes him 1 minute)
the other ties his shoe laces in a single knot and pokes them in the sides (this takes him 15 seconds)

pick the shredder?

sorry but huh?
 
Re: How do you define shred?

Examples are easy to understand, you can present Tom Delonge vs Yngwie, only an fool wouldn't know who the shredder is.

But can you define it, dictionary style?
 
Re: How do you define shred?

urban dictionary.com says:
A guitar playing style or technique that was abandoned in the late 1980's.

The board of directors at MTV decided that learning to "shred", as it were, took too much time, patience, and work to do correctly, and thus was banned in early 1992, in favor of more lucrative cookie cutter style bands, with a higher turnover rate.
MTV Exec 1: "Aw come on. Shred is cool."

MTV Exec 2: "Yes, but look here. In the time it takes to teach one guy how to shred well, we can raise and kill off four three-chord bands, OR seventeen boy-bands!"

MTV Exec 1: "Well holy **** on rye, Steve! Who needs shred anyways?"

yet another MTV fiasco
 
Re: How do you define shred?

shredding to me just means playing excessively fast and complicated things to the point where its just f*cking rediculous
 
Re: How do you define shred?

To me, shred is playing speedy solos in a heavy metal type fashion. Ask an elitist and they'll say that you have to play over a certain amount notes per second, with uber-accurate precision, while yeilding a viking helmet before it can be considered shred. That kind of narrow classification really makes the idea of 'shred' a total wank. Same goes when people define metal into a cheesy cliche.
 
Re: How do you define shred?

when the fretboard sounds like it's getting shredded into by some superhuman fingers!

MEEDLYMEEDLYMEEEEE
 
Re: How do you define shred?

If you try the Troy Stetina series of educational books, you will be able to shred at 16 notes and with little practice at 24 notes. Malmsteen didn't really plat melodicly so the idea of shreding is underrated. Melodic shredding in minor scales is just beautiful but it takes some time to manage it.
 
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Hmm I'd define Shredding as playing very fast, but constantly, while hitting more than one string per beat... I mean come on.. everyone can play one String very fast... but: complicated cords+fast=mean
 
Re: How do you define shred?

shredding for me is a senseless amount of speed and accuracy, in a souless guitar solo.
although i do respect the skill it takes to play like that, to me it just sounds souless.
 
Re: How do you define shred?

SpeedDemon said:
shredding for me is a senseless amount of speed and accuracy, in a souless guitar solo.
although i do respect the skill it takes to play like that, to me it just sounds souless.

And your name is Speed Demon?? ;)

Just a side note and not a personal attack, why is it that in every shred thread, someone feels the need to say that they think it is soulless, even if the question doesn't ask it?

Is shred the guitar technique equivilent of emo?

Cool to hate? :smack:
 
Re: How do you define shred?

nuntius said:
And your name is Speed Demon?? ;)

Just a side note and not a personal attack, why is it that in every shred thread, someone feels the need to say that they think it is soulless, even if the question doesn't ask it?

Is shred the guitar technique equivilent of emo?

Cool to hate? :smack:

:smack: i wanna hit myself everytime i look at my name, my musical influences have changes alot since i joined this forum, and its not that i hate shred, sometimes i quite enjoy it, just for the most part i prefer a more normal paced basic guitar solo.

cool to hate? i doubt it highly, because shredding is very popular IMO at this particular point in time, not quite as popular as it was in the 80's but non the less still popular.

And sorry for not directing my answer to the question, just couldnt help it :rolleyes:
 
Re: How do you define shred?

When I think 'shred', I think late 80s, post-Yngwie metal guitar technique. For a while in the late 80s, guitarists (including myself) didn't so much 'play solos' as display a series of techniques:

start with a wang bar dip, go into a two octave sweep, tap at the end of the sweep, peel off some legato, wang bar again, a quick string skipping line, some alternate picking, rpt...

The late 80s was a very weird time, in retrospect. Very athletic and competitive. The stranger thing is that a small number of kids today still want to shred 80s style. I could understand if they wanted to use the technical facility as a a basis for a more 'eveolved' style of playing, but from what I hear, most just want to blow smoke.

I guess Shawn Lane was right, some people just have a special kind of nervous system...
 
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